IS TRUMP WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY?

Started by Hobby, Aug 08, 2024, 05:11 PM

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Hobby

I think Carter and Bush Jr were pretty bad.  When Carter left office Iran was holding American hostages and when Bush term ended the economy had collapsed. Trump had two impeachment started a riot on the Capitol so I suspect Trump is the worst of the worst.
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dogwalker

I'm not 250 years old so I have not lived when all Presidents did and I'd rather go by personal experience.  I can ask how a President affected my life, then how good they were for the nation or world.

For me personally Reagan was not that good because my taxes were raised dramatically at a time I could not afford it.  His "star wars" program seemed idiotic at the time.  However as President without him some argue that the Iron Curtain would not have fallen when it did which could have meant I would not have been able to go to many places I went to a few months ago such as Budapest, Bratislava, Prague, and East Berlin.  One thing good about him is he was a strong leader even if everyone did not agree with some of his policies.  Not bad for an actor some thought would fail.  I consider him to be one of the last true Republicans, not like Trump who ironically is exactly like RINOs he criticizes IMO.

Nixon was horrible.  A crook that had to resign.  As President he is often credited with the beginnings of the opening of China to the world.  Would one say that is a good thing now?  Most may not, but they may have done it eventually anyway.

Carter was indeed a bit lame.  A nice guy but nice guys finish last I guess, lol. Besides Iran there was inflation, oil crisis, attempts at price controls.  It was a disaster.  He's still around.  He'll be 100 years old in a few months!

bats

Trump makes every other president look like Honest Abe by comparison, no matter how bad they may have seemed at the time. Nixon's crimes, for example, look like petty theft compared to Trump's.

Blkfyre

Kind of speaks for itself as to why he's the worst... and this doesn't include his being a Convict... Guests are not allowed to view images in posts, please Register or Login


HighStepper

Quote from: HighStepper on May 16, 2024, 10:05 PMI suppose everyone has their own criteria on how to determine the worst presidents. James Buchanan use to be considered the worst president in U.S. history by historians. However, Donald Trump now holds the dishonor of being the worst.

In a survey evaluating the achievements of all presidents among U.S. political experts, President Joe Biden ranked 14th, while former President Donald Trump was last at 45th. "Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest." Link
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Hobby


Not according to Bill Oriely Trump is the best president we have had.  Bill says Biden is the the worst.  Orielly has made millions off Trump in a book he wrote about Trump and Trump helped him.  My guess is Orielly will make millions more with Trump.  Oreily lies and lies why I dumped his ass.  Oriely sexually harassed lis wishlist settled out of court for 34 million dollars... wtf 34 million what did he do to pay that much?
Hobby

kidinacandystore

Biden
Carter
Obama
Bush
Clinton as an honorable mention.

dogwalker

LMAO...well as seen just on this thread everyone will have their own opinion and criteria, even "experts", so there will never be uniform agreement on who is worst but I suppose it's interesting why some people pick some over others as being worst.

HighStepper

Quote from: dogwalker on Aug 08, 2024, 11:57 PMLMAO...well as seen just on this thread everyone will have their own opinion and criteria, even "experts", so there will never be uniform agreement on who is worst but I suppose it's interesting why some people pick some over others as being worst.
Of course everyone may have their own opinion on the best and worst. However, the 12 page report from the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey gives actual rankings and how they were determined.
https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/
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Romanticlover

That distinction goes to Biden who will be forgotten in 10 years, scratch that, he's already forgotten now.
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Blkfyre

Quote from: Romanticlover on Aug 09, 2024, 07:46 AMThat distinction goes to Biden who will be forgotten in 10 years, scratch that, he's already forgotten now.

As opposed to the Convict who owing to the fact that he is, yup, a Convict, will go down as the worst smudge on the presidency...

dogwalker

Quote from: HighStepper on Aug 09, 2024, 12:45 AMOf course everyone may have their own opinion on the best and worst. However, the 12 page report from the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey gives actual rankings and how they were determined.
https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/

Well I'm glad they justified their rankings but again that is one opinion by one panel. So what. 
If one surveyed 10 "expert" panels would they all agree?  Obviously not.  Therefore I'm not all that interested in what one panel says.  Many experts actually aren't (which is why I'm putting that word in quotes).  They just think they are or throw around their credentials to make people think they are.  Many are super biased, have huge egos, and refuse to have a balanced opinion.  I see that multiple times daily on the news.  You say everyone may have a separate opinion then immediately try to convince me the Presidential Greatness Project "Expert" Survey has some authority.   Blah blah blah HOWEVER......   Some such panels are paid by partisan groups these days and expect a certain outcome that supports their agenda.  Was that group totally bipartisan???   I'm not buying it.

Hobby

Quote from: Romanticlover on Aug 09, 2024, 07:46 AMThat distinction goes to Biden who will be forgotten in 10 years, scratch that, he's already forgotten now.

Tell me why you think Trump was a great president? Yes Trump did good on controlling our border.


Hobby

Rockeyhard

Clearly Biden is the worst.  I'm just glad that Carter lived long enough for someone to be worse and more destructive than he was!

Danno

Give us some examples why he is your pick as worst?

Quote from: Rockeyhard on Aug 09, 2024, 12:36 PMClearly Biden is the worst.  I'm just glad that Carter lived long enough for someone to be worse and more destructive than he was!
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