Minimum Wages

[Danno]

just had a DOUBLE western bacon cheese burger for $6, coupons are your friend

I do not participate in the street scene, but occasionally will go to Carl's Jr on Watt to watch the action. 

Last hamburger, a Western Bacon Cheese Burger was $11. 

[Danno]

all the fast food places around here don't have high school kids working, mostly middle aged women

I totally disagree with you.  People as kids don't say when I grow up I want to be a food worker. Workers in food industry was never a career rather part time jobs for kids after school.  If the employee doesn't like their pay they can find a better job that pays more.  We don't want the state dictating wages.
 

[Blkfyre]

I totally disagree with you.  People as kids don't say when I grow up I want to be a food worker. Workers in food industry was never a career rather part time jobs for kids after school.  If the employee doesn't like their pay they can find a better job that pays more.  We don't want the state dictating wages.
 

You were right, people don't say that that's what they wanna do when they grow up

Of course, saying that doesn't resemble reality at all. You get the jobs that you can get. Having this fantasy that people only get the jobs that they dream about is just out of fantasy. People get the jobs that pay the money.


Yes, fast food job started out is just something as a starter job, but it's not that anymore and people keep holding onto that fantasy that that's what it's still is and it isn't

[Hobby]

So where are kids supposed to get start jobs now?  Fast foods work does not require skilled labor and was more of temporary job for people.  Now the pay is high jobs are filled as a career job and should not be treated that way.  All raising food workers wages did was add to inflation.  The state benefits the most because the state takes more income tax.

[Romanticlover]

Here's the law regarding the 20/hr minimum wage in CA, it's a convoluted cluster fuck:

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Fast-Food-Minimum-Wage-FAQ.htm#:~:text=When%20does%20the%20minimum%20wage,Yes.

The exemption list is ridiculous.

[bats]

I think high school kids used to take those jobs because restaurant owners made them a captive employee pool. Offer low pay plus some school work credits, tell them these are just "starter" jobs not even meant to pay enough for you to live off of, and nobody else even wants those jobs.

I understand there are economic arguments pro and con, but I don't agree that high school kids should be paid less just because they're under 18 and in school. 

[bats]

Here's the law regarding the 20/hr minimum wage in CA, it's a convoluted cluster fuck:

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Fast-Food-Minimum-Wage-FAQ.htm#:~:text=When%20does%20the%20minimum%20wage,Yes.

The exemption list is ridiculous.

Other than the bread-baking thing, which was obviously designed to cover Newsom's Panera Bread donor pal, I don't see the problem.

[Danno]

the franchise owner of McDonalds on Sunrise told me they are exempt because he only owns this one location, not cooperate.

[dogwalker]

From what I have observed some high school kid's job now is "parent's bank account manager."

[bats]

the franchise owner of McDonalds on Sunrise told me they are exempt because he only owns this one location, not cooperate.

Not according to the document RL linked:

• What if my employer is a franchise owner?

AB 1228 applies to employers of "fast food restaurant employees" regardless of whether the employer is the business entity that owns the national brand, or a franchisee or licensee of that national brand.[/list]

[dogwalker]

I started in fast food (high school) but then "got educated" and went way beyond that.
So if you can handle college and high pressure jobs you may do well.
If not well then you were limited by your capabilities, drive or what ever. 
Boo hoo.  Not everyone can be a bad ass.

These days many younger people seem to do nothing but cry and whine about not having opportunities
for some "stupid" reason or the other.
In my time there was no time for crying.  I MADE my opportunities.
I took control instead of expecting someone to give me something for doing nothing.

[Hobby]

the franchise owner of McDonalds on Sunrise told me they are exempt because he only owns this one location, not cooperate.

Franchise owners are not exempted.

[bats]

I started in fast food (high school) but then "got educated" and went way beyond that.
So if you can handle college and high pressure jobs you may do well.
If not well then you were limited by your capabilities, drive or what ever. 
Boo hoo.  Not everyone can be a bad ass.

These days many younger people seem to do nothing but cry and whine about not having opportunities
for some "stupid" reason or the other.
In my time there was no time for crying.  I MADE my opportunities.
I took control instead of expecting someone to give me something for doing nothing.

dogwalker in 20 years when some kid accidentally finds himself on his lawn:

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[dogwalker]

I'll use more than a cane....see above

[Romanticlover]

Other than the bread-baking thing, which was obviously designed to cover Newsom's Panera Bread donor pal, I don't see the problem.

The glaring exemption to me is stand-alone restaurants have to pay $20/hr while restaurants in a Walmart(stores over 15,000 sq ft) or airport do not.

Why are stand-alone restaurant workers special?