People are fed up in California

Started by thaikhan, Nov 19, 2024, 01:35 AM

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Hobby

Not surprising California has the highest number of homeless.  California is the most populated and expensive to live.
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Romanticlover

To sum up the past four years:
COVID becomes a pandemic so Democrats shut down everything which causes businesses to close and put people out of work,
Democrats put in place laws that prevent landlords from evicting tenants until 2022 which just kicks the can down the road, Democrats pass a 15/hr minimum wage for most employees but fast food workers are somehow special so they get 20/hr, more layoffs and reduced hours by businesses, some businesses close for good, Democrats feel sorry for convicts so they release them which causes crime to go up, retail businesses suffer big losses so more close.

Everything Democrats touch turns to shit and every law they pass makes things worse.
Are we having fun yet?

Blkfyre

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 23, 2024, 02:39 PMCalifornia has the highest amount of homeless and unsheltered people in the US:

https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2024/01/04/california-homeless-statistics-high

Here's a breakdown by state:

https://shou.senate.ca.gov/sites/shou.senate.ca.gov/files/Homelessness%20in%20CA%202023%20Numbers%20-%201.2024.pdf

Here's the thing tho. Conservatives love throwing around the numbers you just cited saying California is the worst.

Except it's not. It's not the NUMBER of homeless that's the problem, it's the people per 10k that actually shows how much homelessness is in a state:

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-and-lowest-rates-of-homelessness/

California is only number 5. California has one of the highest populations, thus of course it would have a higher rate of homelessness, but there are many states that have a higher number vs their populations.

Romanticlover

Reading is fundamental, I wrote 'California has the highest amount of homeless and unsheltered people in the US:'
The actual numbers are the problem, if you live in a rural county and have 50 homeless people then it's not a huge problem. If you live in a county that has 2 million residents but have 50,000 homeless then that's a huge problem.

I think voters in Cali have had a enough, they rejected the higher minimum wage(by a slim margin) and tougher penalties for retail theft(by a huge margin).
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bats

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 23, 2024, 05:14 PMReading is fundamental, I wrote 'California has the highest amount of homeless and unsheltered people in the US:'

That means nothing without additional context. California is not just the most populous state; it also has the highest urban population. Homelessness skews urban.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 23, 2024, 05:14 PMThe actual numbers are the problem, if you live in a rural county and have 50 homeless people then it's not a huge problem. If you live in a county that has 2 million residents but have 50,000 homeless then that's a huge problem.
Except that proportion doesn't exist anywhere, including California, according to your links. Los Angeles County had 65,000 homeless people in a population of nearly 10 million.

zoezane

#20
I think we need to look at what Putin just did about World War 3.  If Russia is collapsing what does he have to lose.  My oldest son wanted to tell me he loves me.  He wants me to know.  I am not one to push war at all, I am a peacemaker big time.  This is very concerning about Putin.

Now we know why some billionaires have bunkers. 
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Tuscano

Quote from: bats on Nov 19, 2024, 11:24 PMMeh. Trump and his Republican buddies in Congress are gonna fuck things up so badly for everyone except the wealthy that the tide will turn back again in four years.

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kidinacandystore

Quote from: Tuscano on Nov 27, 2024, 06:02 PMThe American way to govern. A revolution every 4 to 8 years. It has kept the national peace for over two hundred years

I agree T!  That's why it is IMPERATIVE that TERM LIMITS get passed, so these elites are not in office for life...from either party, because when it comes to graft and corruption, there is only ONE uniparty of political elites who THINK they get to rule over the filthy unwashed.  I despise career politicians, any politicians for that matter.  They ALL remind me of the "Master of Lake Town" and his crony Alfrid and should receive the same fate (metaphorically, of course).

dogwalker

I think term limits may help but not eliminate.  I'd bet many are corrupt before they even run for an office.

CigarMan

Quote from: kidinacandystore on Nov 29, 2024, 08:40 AMI agree T!  That's why it is IMPERATIVE that TERM LIMITS get passed, so these elites are not in office for life...from either party, because when it comes to graft and corruption, there is only ONE uniparty of political elites who THINK they get to rule over the filthy unwashed.  I despise career politicians, any politicians for that matter.  They ALL remind me of the "Master of Lake Town" and his crony Alfrid and should receive the same fate (metaphorically, of course).
Calif has term limits.  Did not work as intended.  The voters need to impose term limits.

HighStepper

Quote from: CigarMan on Nov 29, 2024, 12:49 PMCalif has term limits.  Did not work as intended.  The voters need to impose term limits.
California voters enacted term limits on the California State Legislature in 1990 through approval of Proposition 140. Interestingly the voters returned most incumbent legislators to office. So, it's like voters are saying, politicians are corrupt except the ones representing me.

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bats

#26
Term limits is a pipe dream because it would require a constitutional amendment, which can only be proposed in one of two ways:

1. Two-thirds vote in both the House and the Senate

2. Two-thirds vote of the state legislatures at a national convention

That doesn't even include ratification, which comes with an even greater supermajority requirement.

If there's ever that much consensus on that issue then the people in power aren't going want to change things. It's a non-starter.