Trump Called the Border

bats · Dec 11, 2024, 09:03 PM

Quote from: Bande on Dec 11, 2024, 08:22 PMLMAO Illegal. He has done said what the plan is.
And, you want to talk illegal, the current administration has been operating illegal.. Borders were never closed, borders were wide open with clandestine efforts to get the illegals here.

Damn, you see some smart people dropping from Democrats like flies....

In your mind, what does it mean to "close" the border? Was it "closed" under Trump?

And do tell us about these "clandestine efforts" to get foreign nationals into the country illegally.

Hobby · Dec 11, 2024, 10:00 PM

Minor children have to have a guardian. If the child has legal adult family they can stay if not they leave with their illegal parent s. When they turn 18 they can return.

bats · Dec 11, 2024, 10:24 PM

Quote from: Hobby on Dec 11, 2024, 10:00 PMMinor children have to have a guardian. If the child has legal adult family they can stay if not they leave with their illegal parent s. When they turn 18 they can return.

Are we just brainstorming without regard to the Constitution? If Trump wishes to follow the law, then he can't deport children who were born on U.S. soil. They're United States citizens.

dogwalker · Dec 11, 2024, 10:29 PM

but there is a movement to eliminate so called birth rights

bats · Dec 11, 2024, 10:49 PM

Quote from: dogwalker on Dec 11, 2024, 10:29 PMbut there is a movement to eliminate so called birth rights

It's not a "movement." It's something Trump has been talking about since at least 2016 as part of his general program of ginning up hate among his supporters. But it's a cockamamie idea with no basis in law (unless his buddies on the Supreme Court come up with another insane decision).

Incidentally, he always claims that we're the only country that has birthright citizenship. In fact, 33 countries have it, including nearly all the countries in both North and South America.

Blkfyre · Dec 11, 2024, 11:46 PM

Quote from: Bande on Dec 11, 2024, 08:22 PMLMAO Illegal. He has done said what the plan is.
And, you want to talk illegal, the current administration has been operating illegal.. Borders were never closed, borders were wide open with clandestine efforts to get the illegals here.

Damn, you see some smart people dropping from Democrats like flies....

Typical Trump apologist: Attack the other side rather than confront his behavior.

What Biden has or has not done is immaterial to his deporting/imprisoning legal US citizens who have committed no crime. Doing either would be illegal.

bligslick · Dec 12, 2024, 02:15 AM

39 days

bats · Dec 12, 2024, 10:51 AM

Quote from: bligslick on Dec 12, 2024, 02:15 AM39 days

Yep. In less than six weeks, we will watch the most corrupt, least qualified president take the oath of office (again). As he did last time, he will talk about how the country is going to hell in a handbasket and that he has arrived just in time to right the ship.

He'll solemnly promise to uphold the Constitution despite announcing plans, as discussed in this thread, that would subvert it.

And a lot of poorly informed Americans will like what they see.

HighStepper · Dec 12, 2024, 01:50 PM

Quote from: bligslick on Dec 12, 2024, 02:15 AM39 days

The link leads to: "The Imperial March, Darth Vader's Theme, composed for the film The Empire Strikes Back.

You just may be right. The evil empire (Trump administration) based on campaign rhetoric is going to be about personal vengece, rather than making life better for the average American citizen.

Zep · Dec 12, 2024, 04:21 PM

As a nation... We deserve what is coming. We chose this clown and now we will reap what's been sown. I hope the Trumpsters are right and America will be great. I have my doubts, but time will tell.

Bande · Dec 12, 2024, 09:36 PM

Quote from: bats on Dec 11, 2024, 10:24 PMAre we just brainstorming without regard to the Constitution? If Trump wishes to follow the law, then he can't deport children who were born on U.S. soil. They're United States citizens.

Once again you are correct. He can deport the parents though.
Therefore if you want to keep the family together they all have to go.
Otherwise you can take care of the children.

Bande · Dec 12, 2024, 09:42 PM

Quote from: bats on Dec 12, 2024, 10:51 AMYep. In less than six weeks, we will watch the most corrupt, least qualified president take the oath of office (again). As he did last time, he will talk about how the country is going to hell in a handbasket and that he has arrived just in time to right the ship.

He'll solemnly promise to uphold the Constitution despite announcing plans, as discussed in this thread, that would subvert it.

And a lot of poorly informed Americans will like what they see.

LMAO
LMAO went to Hell in a handbasket because of the Demoncrats. Amazing many of the Democratic ran states have become a shithole.
And Biden has upheld the Constitution?
Between the 2 of them Trump has upheld the Constitution and our freedoms far more than Biden.
Bidens Crime family. Biden is the biggest CORRUPT President we ever had.
Lead by Obama......
All these blanket pardons Biden is doing cuz he sees the WRATH coming... They need to use the 25th and get him out now.

Tuscano · Dec 12, 2024, 10:03 PM

Quote from: Hobby on Dec 09, 2024, 01:38 PMTrump is a brilliant conman and entertainer. Perhaps we do need a good conman to stop the illegals and drugs from entering. Trump will be president for four years and I will support him. Perhaps he will stop the wars and get Iran under control. This is wait and see.

Agree...almost...stop the wars??? lol...=get Iran under control? In a dream! Iran can't Iran under control!

Trump...my advice? Unlease Isreal. Nuke the Iranians to the dark ages! Will the Russians grab their balls? Not likley!

bats · Dec 12, 2024, 11:25 PM

Quote from: Bande on Dec 12, 2024, 09:42 PMLMAO
LMAO went to Hell in a handbasket because of the Demoncrats. Amazing many of the Democratic ran states have become a shithole.
And Biden has upheld the Constitution?
Between the 2 of them Trump has upheld the Constitution and our freedoms far more than Biden.
Bidens Crime family. Biden is the biggest CORRUPT President we ever had.
Lead by Obama......
All these blanket pardons Biden is doing cuz he sees the WRATH coming... They need to use the 25th and get him out now.

It was Trump's claim that we were a failing nation. It's not true of course, but he had to convince you all of that so he could then say that you needed him (and him alone) to fix it. That's what autocrats do.

Why didn't the Republicans ever specify a crime when they were doing their fake impeachment inquiry? Because they didn't have any evidence, and they knew it. It was all for the consumption of the right-wing voters, and they believed it because they wanted to.

By the way, presidents aren't supposed to do "WRATH." Again, that's from the autocrat playbook.

bligslick · Dec 13, 2024, 03:15 AM

Quote from: bats on Dec 12, 2024, 10:51 AMYep. In less than six weeks, we will watch the most corrupt, least qualified president take the oath of office (again). As he did last time, he will talk about how the country is going to hell in a handbasket and that he has arrived just in time to right the ship.

He'll solemnly promise to uphold the Constitution despite announcing plans, as discussed in this thread, that would subvert it.

And a lot of poorly informed Americans will like what they see.

Thanks for your view. I see his presidency as a chance for positive change, focusing on his past achievements. Critics worry about his approach to the Constitution, but I'm optimistic. Time will show how it goes. May you get what you claim so you can ride on your white horse of wisdom. Meanwhile, the countdown continues....