Does The Palisades Fire Help or Hurt Society?

Started by Hobby, Jan 22, 2025, 09:28 PM

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Hobby

Obviously those who lost their homes and belongings were hurt, devastated. Rebuilding will create thousands of manual labor jobs and retail suppliers will make a fortune supplying the building materials.  Stores will be selling new furniture, appliances etc. So whether the fire helps or hurts society depends how you look at it. 
Hobby

HighStepper

"Thousand of manual labor jobs" to be filled by many who are without legal status.

Higher building material cost might be further impacted by Trump tariffs.
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dogwalker

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I'm not convinced thousands of construction jobs will be created unless many were unemployed to begin with.  That labor pretty much has to come from an existing labor pool with that skill since finding and training new workers may take time?  I recall the effect in Northern California after fires was a construction labor shortage.

I do imagine manufacturers of home building materials, appliances, furniture etc. will have increased revenue.  Those items have to come from somewhere and some people will rebuild.

Canada supplies about 30% of lumber sold in the US. If there is a 25% tariff on that lumber then the price of all lumber as an average should increase about 7.5%. People may not buy Canadian lumber but then that may increase demand for US lumber and therefore push it's price up unless there is an oversupply of US lumber which I doubt.  The ~10,000 homes destroyed in the LA fires is 1% of the over 1 million new homes built in the US every year so unless there is (illegal) price gouging in theory the rebuilding of the LA homes should have very little effect on the average cost to build a house in the US as a whole.

As with many things it's not simple.  Yes either side of whether it's good or bad could be argued depending on the specific topic.   

Zep

The President's Billionaire buddies did tell us that "it's going to hurt the Average American"  Ahhh Ya!  Moving more wealth to the top .5% wealthiest in America is going to hurt all of us. 

I know some think, as long as I can fuck over the minorities and poor and take away stuff from them, Im fine getting fucked in the ass by the elites in America.
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kidinacandystore

Newsom came all over himself with his little shoulder shimmy as he figured out how to accomplish the largest land grab this side of Alaska and the Louisiana Purchase.

The permitting process and all of the other obstacles in the way of anyone rebuilding, not counting the insurance issues (no, I'm not going to cut/paste permits, red tape, raw material prices, or any of that shit), will drive the normal person to rebuild somewhere else.  Is this a certainty, fuck I don't know, but if Newsom's little schoolyard dance is any indication, the new landscape will be controlled by 15 minute barriers and no cars will be needed.  Everyone will be happy!  State law says so.

Hobby

Quote from: HighStepper on Jan 22, 2025, 11:16 PM"Thousand of manual labor jobs" to be filled by many who are without legal status.

Higher building material cost might be further impacted by Trump tariffs.


In cases like this tariffs can be waived.  It's going to take 1000s of workers to rebuild Palicades.  Cleanup alone is huge under taking.  They have to stabilize the hillside to prevent rivers of mud from pouring in. 
Hobby