Ukraine War Is About To End

[Hobby]

Ukraine isn't joining NATO. Trump is already doing Putin's bidding...

Trump is listening to what Putin is saying hasn't said if he supports Putin. Before the war started NATO could have allowed Ukraine to be a member but didn't.  So now Trump is negotiating with Putin to end the war Europe is complaining.  I doubt Putin will back down and say it's okay for Ukraine to join NATO. Before the war Biden should have pushed for Ukraine to become a NATO member.

[Blkfyre]

Trump is listening to what Putin is saying hasn't said if he supports Putin. Before the war started NATO could have allowed Ukraine to be a member but didn't.  So now Trump is negotiating with Putin to end the war Europe is complaining.  I doubt Putin will back down and say it's okay for Ukraine to join NATO. Before the war Biden should have pushed for Ukraine to become a NATO member.

Uh huh...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/13/no-nato-seat-or-us-troops-trumps-new-roadmap-to-end-russia-ukraine-war

"Trump said the 1.5-hour call was "highly productive" and that Russian President Vladimir Putin shared his goal to end the war.

"As we both agreed, we want to stop the millions of deaths taking place in the War with Russia/Ukraine," Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social account. "President Putin even used my very strong Campaign motto of, 'COMMON SENSE.' We both believe very strongly in it."

Trump later said he and Putin plan to meet face to face, likely in Saudi Arabia "in the not-too-distant future"."

[Hobby]

So?  At least Trump wants to end the war and will talk to Putin.  Biden didn't do anything except send money so more could die.  Would not surprise me if we learn the Biden family is making money off the war!

[bats]

So?  At least Trump wants to end the war and will talk to Putin.  Biden didn't do anything except send money so more could die.  Would not surprise me if we learn the Biden family is making money off the war!

At least Biden didn't repeatedly claim that war has caused "millions of deaths." Trump is fond of such exaggeration, though you won't find any estimates that support it.

And Biden at least tried to uphold the bargain we made with Ukraine 30 years ago to guarantee their security after they denuclearized. Russia has reneged on that same bargain because of Putin, and now we're in bed with that fucker?

By abandoning Ukraine to Putin, Trump endangers all of Europe. And America will never be trusted again.

[Hobby]

So just keep sending money to Ukraine and let Putin take all of Ukraine is that what Dems want to do.  If Harris had won you have any doubt the Ukraine would not lose the war?

[bats]

So just keep sending money to Ukraine and let Putin take all of Ukraine is that what Dems want to do.  If Harris had won you have any doubt the Ukraine would not lose the war?

What are you talking about? Do you think Putin won't take all of Ukraine now that Trump has made clear his willingness to take the U.S. out of his way?

European nations, realizing this, are now talking about how to keep Putin at bay without our help. That's how desperate they are to keep Putin from advancing on the rest of Europe.

[Hobby]

Keep Putin at bay without our help? Putin has like 20% of the Ukraine. Has thousands of soldiers and equipment inside the Ukraine and now Europe thinks they can save Ukraine?  The time to have done that was before the invasion.  Europe doesn't want to fight Russia. Europe stayed quiet as long as the US was footing the bill. Trump won't give the Ukraine to Russia. 

[HighStepper]

So just keep sending money to Ukraine

https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=26319

[bats]

Keep Putin at bay without our help? Putin has like 20% of the Ukraine. Has thousands of soldiers and equipment inside the Ukraine and now Europe thinks they can save Ukraine?  The time to have done that was before the invasion.  Europe doesn't want to fight Russia. Europe stayed quiet as long as the US was footing the bill. Trump won't give the Ukraine to Russia. 

Maybe Europe could have done more, but through 2024 they assisted with €140 billion, including €30 billion in military support.

As for Trump giving Ukraine to Russia, he's already doing that, but first he wants to squeeze Ukraine for their minerals, because Trump the crook thinks he sees something he wants.

[Danno]

typical mob boss tactic, blackmail

[Danno]

our new SOD got played by Putin on day one.