Part 3 Musk's Hostile Takeover of American Government

[dogwalker]

Hello! CQ Brown and Adm. Franchetti, among many others, were not new hires

[Danno]

Obviously you don't read your own post!

Yes the law says if you are on national guard deployment and be returned to your civilian job.  That's of course your job is still there.  The law says the employer can not replace you with another person.  It doesn't say if your position has been eliminated they have to give you a job.

point one out for me

[Hobby]

Obviously you don't read your own post!

Yes the law says if you are on national guard deployment and be returned to your civilian job.  That's of course your job is still there.  The law says the employer can not replace you with another person.  It doesn't say if your position has been eliminated they have to give you a job.

Do your own research...read what the law says...  common sense would tell you if the company has downsized, eliminated positions or gone out of business there will be no job to return to. 

[HighStepper]

Obviously you don't read your own post!

Yes the law says if you are on national guard deployment and be returned to your civilian job.  That's of course your job is still there.  The law says the employer can not replace you with another person.  It doesn't say if your position has been eliminated they have to give you a job.

Obviously you have not done the research and are just guessing.
If reemployment in the exact same position is not possible due to changes in the business or other significant reasons, the employer must still make reasonable efforts to provide a comparable position. See USERRA (The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act)

[HighStepper]

Hello! CQ Brown and Adm. Franchetti, among many others, were not new hires

General Charles 'CQ' Brown, over 40 years in the military.
Admiral Lisa Franchetti has served with the U.S. Navy for nearly 40 years

[Hobby]

Obviously you have not done the research and are just guessing.
If reemployment in the exact same position is not possible due to changes in the business or other significant reasons, the employer must still make reasonable efforts to provide a comparable position. See USERRA (The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act)

I say deleting the position would qualify as significant reason.  And if no other jobs are available the employer does not fire someone to fill that job with the returning vet.  So stop making up shit!

[Blkfyre]

I say deleting the position would qualify as significant reason.  And if no other jobs are available the employer does not fire someone to fill that job with the returning vet.  So stop making up shit!

https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/USERRA-Employee.aspx

Once a service member is reemployed, USERRA provides guidelines on what position she is entitled to. Generally, the employee must be given the position she would have held had she remained continuously employed. (This is often referred to as the "escalator principle.") This may result in a promotion or other advancement. If an employer thinks that a service member is not qualified to perform this job, the employer must provide training or other experience to boost the employee's skills to the required level. If the employee cannot be trained through reasonable efforts, she is still entitled to her former position.

If a change in the employer's circumstances makes reemployment impossible or unreasonable. For instance, if a service member returns from service to find that her former employer is going bankrupt and has laid off 90 percent of its employees, she may not be entitled to a job there. (However, if she worked for the federal government, she may be entitled to a job in another agency with assistance from the Office of Personnel Management.)

In addition, returning service members have added job security. If they were absent for 31-180 days, they are protected against being terminated without cause for six months. If they were absent for more than 180 days, they are protected against being terminated without cause for one year.

[dogwalker]

Musk has proposed giving back a "DOGE dividend" to taxpayers based on what DOGE saves the government.
In one proposal it would be 20% of what they claim to have saved taxpayers.
20% would go to paying down the federal debt. 
Not sure where the remaining 60% goes....Musk's bank account?
The rationale is if tax money was used for "wasteful" purposes it should be refunded.
Sounds great to me.

However their math may not add up.
DOGE claims the dividend could be up to $5,000 per taxpayer.  However this is my math:
DOGE is expected to be in operation from 12/6/2024 to 7/4/2026 which is 19 months.
If they can average the saving pace they claim of $1B/day that would add up to about $570B in 19 months.
20% of that is $114B.  There are estimated to be 80M eligible individual taxpayers so that would be a $1,425 dividend per taxpayer.  Even if they shut down the entire government individual taxpayers pay a total of about $2T so if DOGE refunds all of that the dividend would be $5,000 per taxpayer.  So that is the maximum.  I suppose they are right when they say the DOGE dividend could be "up to" $5K per taxpayer but my guess is 10-20% of that might be more realistic.  It's very unlikely they'd totally get rid of the government's largest expenses----military, Medicare, Social Security.

So far DOGE claims to have saved $55B (although some claim the real amount to be far less).
https://www.doge.gov/savings
So if a DOGE dividend rebate was issued today each eligible taxpayer would get $138......sometime after 7/4/2026.

[Hobby]

If there is any money to be given out i would like to see it used to cleanup the city slums...shit holes as Trump describes them. 

[HighStepper]

Analyzing Musk's BS is like a dog walking a dog. At first glance you don't notice.
Then if you start thinking about it becomes weird.

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[dogwalker]

DOGE's claim of saving $55B so far is less than 1% of the federal budget.  Long way to go!
However if they are giving out "free money", which was my money at one point, I'm all for that!

[bats]

So far DOGE claims to have saved $55B (although some claim the real amount to be far less).
https://www.doge.gov/savings

Yes, much less. According to Bloomberg:

The federal cost-cutting effort dubbed the Department of Government Efficiency says it has saved $55 billion in federal spending so far, but its website only accounts for $16.6 billion of that.

And that's before factoring in an error in the data published on DOGE's website that mislabels a contract as $8 billion, which was later corrected in the federal database to only be $8 million. That cuts nearly in half the total of DOGE's itemized savings, including from contracts and leases, to about $8.6 billion.

Although this article was published on February 19th, it's still good because the DOGE site hasn't been updated since the 17th. (I thought Musk and his team were working day and night on this shit?)

[Hobby]

Yes, much less. According to Bloomberg:

The federal cost-cutting effort dubbed the Department of Government Efficiency says it has saved $55 billion in federal spending so far, but its website only accounts for $16.6 billion of that.

And that's before factoring in an error in the data published on DOGE's website that mislabels a contract as $8 billion, which was later corrected in the federal database to only be $8 million. That cuts nearly in half the total of DOGE's itemized savings, including from contracts and leases, to about $8.6 billion.

Although this article was published on February 19th, it's still good because the DOGE site hasn't been updated since the 17th. (I thought Musk and his team were working day and night on this shit?)

On this shit?  You don't care if money is wasted?  I know Democrats don't care because they are the ones who waste the money.  They attack the process and attack Trump but they don't say let's see how we can rectify the fraud and waste that is being found by Musk.

Musk has said there have been mistakes and he corrected them.  He is really under to obligation to report daily of his findings. When he is finished a final report will be made so have to wait till then. 

Amazing not a single Democrat questioned where the 75 billion that Zelensky says he never received from the US.  Ukraine is a very corrupt government so no telling where the money went but Dems don't care. 

[bats]

On this shit?  You don't care if money is wasted?  I know Democrats don't care because they are the ones who waste the money.  They attack the process and attack Trump but they don't say let's see how we can rectify the fraud and waste that is being found by Musk.

Musk has said there have been mistakes and he corrected them.  He is really under to obligation to report daily of his findings. When he is finished a final report will be made so have to wait till then. 

Amazing not a single Democrat questioned where the 75 billion that Zelensky says he never received from the US.  Ukraine is a very corrupt government so no telling where the money went but Dems don't care. 

Did I say I don't care if money is wasted? I don't see that anywhere in my post. And where do you get these generalizations about Democrats?

The Bloomberg article is about how DOGE's claims of savings don't add up. Not even close.

But an even more important issue is whether the DOGE cuts represent savings at all. It appears they're just cutting stuff they don't like or stuff that doesn't sound right to them. That's not a legitimate way of making cuts to spending that has been authorized by the Congress.

Musk and Trump are both lying sociopaths who have only their own interests in mind. This whole DOGE thing is a big scam on the American people.

[Hobby]

Did I say I don't care if money is wasted? I don't see that anywhere in my post. And where do you get these generalizations about Democrats?

The Bloomberg article is about how DOGE's claims of savings don't add up. Not even close.

But an even more important issue is whether the DOGE cuts represent savings at all. It appears they're just cutting stuff they don't like or stuff that doesn't sound right to them. That's not a legitimate way of making cuts to spending that has been authorized by the Congress.

Musk and Trump are both lying sociopaths who have only their own interests in mind. This whole DOGE thing is a big scam on the American people.

Oh so now you are a medical expert and know Musk is a lying sociopaths?  Well if being a lying sociopath gets a person 400 billion dollars in wealth sign me up...lol Musk is the richest person on the planet.  He probably can do anything he wants. Why he wants to cleanup our government is beyond me.  He is very intelligent.