President Trump 1 of the best Presidents in history

Started by Bande, Feb 17, 2025, 11:37 AM

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Hobby

Quote from: Zep on Today at 10:21 AMIsnt this the same guy complaining about the price of beef during Biden's presidency? Now it's OK?, just got to wait..    The big tax cuts for billionaires will ignite inflation again, just like it did during Trumps first term.

Inflation was at its lowest during Trump first term. Inflation was coming down during Obamas last year in office.  Up until covid hit our economy was strong but covid changed that. Had covid not happened I have no doubt Trump would have been rejected his second term.  No I am not in favor of giving tax breaks to the rich. The middle class is the backbone of our economy not the rich.  The rich profit off the middle class. Personally I would like to see zero tax on incomes below $100,000.
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bats

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 09:50 AMYou like to put words in people's mouths to support your arguments.  I never said employees should not unionize now did I? I said the reason for saying bad performance could be that Union Contracts require a reason for termination. A union employee can not simply be fired without reasonable cause. Using bad performance is brilliant because the Union will have to review each employee personal record in order to disprove.  It will take them months and months. You can bet they will find a percentage of employees with bad performance records that should be fired.
Not to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're saying that firing people for poor performance (despite having no record of poor performance) is "brilliant" because you believe that tactic will skirt the protections legally afforded employees under a CBA.

But eventually some of the fired employees will sue the government for wrongful termination, and many of them will prevail. Now, tell me again how that tactic does anything other than inflict unnecessary damage to the government and to the fired employees and their families.

Danno

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 10:31 AMInflation was at its lowest during Trump first term. Inflation was coming down during Obamas last year in office.  Up until covid hit our economy was strong but covid changed that. Had covid not happened I have no doubt Trump would have been rejected his second term.  No I am not in favor of giving tax breaks to the rich. The middle class is the backbone of our economy not the rich.  The rich profit off the middle class. Personally I would like to see zero tax on incomes below $100,000.
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unfortunately this is going work just opposite.   I'm pissed I already paid my taxes. changed my deductions so I owe a lot next year and will not be paying. I suggest everyone do the same.





Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome

Hobby

Quote from: bats on Today at 11:14 AMNot to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're saying that firing people for poor performance (despite having no record of poor performance) is "brilliant" because you believe that tactic will skirt the protections legally afforded employees under a CBA.

But eventually some of the fired employees will sue the government for wrongful termination, and many of them will prevail. Now, tell me again how that tactic does anything other than inflict unnecessary damage to the government and to the fired employees and their families.

No point in discussing this anymore.  Come this October there will be thousands of federal workers removed from the federal civil service.  Even if an employee wins wrongful termination there will be no job for the employee to return to.  They aren't just firing employees, they are doing away with the job and even the department.  Complete overhaul of the federal government to make it more efficient and cost less...
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Danno

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 12:28 PMNo point in discussing this anymore.  Come this October there will be thousands of federal workers removed from the federal civil service.  Even if an employee wins wrongful termination there will be no job for the employee to return to.  They aren't just firing employees, they are doing away with the job and even the department.  Complete overhaul of the federal government to make it more efficient and cost less...
All white military. Replacing 4 star general with weekend warriors. because they are black. they going to kick out 25% of our military force and give un honorable discharges and ruin their lives
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bats

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 12:28 PMNo point in discussing this anymore.  Come this October there will be thousands of federal workers removed from the federal civil service.  Even if an employee wins wrongful termination there will be no job for the employee to return to.  They aren't just firing employees, they are doing away with the job and even the department.  Complete overhaul of the federal government to make it more efficient and cost less...
It will be more efficient at promoting Trump's authoritarian maneuvers and attacking anyone who gets in the way. That's the obvious reason for the unprecedented military leadership purge this weekend, for example.

On Fox News, the incompetent SecDef Pete Hegseth dismissed criticisms of the purge as "hyperbole" and said it was time for "fresh blood" because Trump doesn't want any "roadblocks."

Of course. Our authoritarian Commander-in-Chief doesn't want high-level military officers, including JAGs, to question anything he does. He'd rather have loyalists who will clear the way for the abuses of power that are sure to come.

Danno

They claim to be finding all this Fraud, which is a felony, so why isn't DOJ going after them?
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dogwalker

LMAO....."everyone" is being fired at DOJ.  They may not have enough prosecutors to deal with so many cases.

Hobby

Quote from: bats on Today at 06:02 PMIt will be more efficient at promoting Trump's authoritarian maneuvers and attacking anyone who gets in the way. That's the obvious reason for the unprecedented military leadership purge this weekend, for example.

On Fox News, the incompetent SecDef Pete Hegseth dismissed criticisms of the purge as "hyperbole" and said it was time for "fresh blood" because Trump doesn't want any "roadblocks."

Of course. Our authoritarian Commander-in-Chief doesn't want high-level military officers, including JAGs, to question anything he does. He'd rather have loyalists who will clear the way for the abuses of power that are sure to come.

It's Trumps decision who he keeps and who let's go. The president has to be comfortable with those around him. You guys just want to make mountains out of nothing.  If I was president I would want people I could trust.  Would not you?
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dogwalker

He's never even met most of those being fired.
Yes he wants people around him that "he is comfortable with" =
Trumpster loyalists that among other things will allow him to serve a third term,
let him and his buddies literally do WHATEVER they want, etc.
I hired people that could do a job not whether I liked them.
I find it amusing how many drank the kool-aid and still support him.
What will they say when their businesses fail, they can't afford health insurance,
Medicaid is cut, etc.?  DUPED AGAIN!  LOL.

Blkfyre

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 10:14 AMTakes time for changes to make a difference!  Things that Democrats and Biden did that caused the cost of living to skyrocket will take time to turn around.  If in 6 months to one year from now inflation has not come down and you don't have more money in your pocket then you can complain. 

No, it doesn't. At least it doesn't in Trump's world.

Trump signed more than 70 Executive Orders since being back in office. One of those EO's could address what Trump said he would fix ON DAY ONE, just as he is doing about taking away people's jobs and slashing budgets.

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bats

Quote from: Hobby on Today at 06:25 PMIt's Trumps decision who he keeps and who let's go. The president has to be comfortable with those around him. You guys just want to make mountains out of nothing.  If I was president I would want people I could trust.  Would not you?
All presidents want people they can trust. That's normal.

The problem with Trump is that he needs to trust them to be loyal to him, whereas a normal president would choose people loyal to the country.

I don't believe he can even conceive of interests beyond himself. That's why he called soldiers who gave their lives in service of their country "suckers and losers."

The man who never stops complaining that he's being treated unfairly is setting things up so that he can punish his enemies and reward his friends. And I do mean his friends, not friends of the country. Ask Zelensky about that. 

Hobby

Quote from: bats on Today at 07:11 PMAll presidents want people they can trust. That's normal.

The problem with Trump is that he needs to trust them to be loyal to him, whereas a normal president would choose people loyal to the country.

I don't believe he can even conceive of interests beyond himself. That's why he called soldiers who gave their lives in service of their country "suckers and losers."

The man who never stops complaining that he's being treated unfairly is setting things up so that he can punish his enemies and reward his friends. And I do mean his friends, not friends of the country. Ask Zelensky about that. 


I guess we will see if you are right!
Hobby