Journalist Was Sent Details of U.S. Attack

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Never mind. Trump cleared it all up today talking to reporters in the Oval Office:

I don't know that Signal works. I think Signal could be defective, to be honest with you. Because you use Signal, we use Signal, and everybody uses Signal, but it could be a defective platform, and we're going to have to find that out.

I'm sure he'll have Elon look into it. What an idiot.

[Hobby]

National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Says Elon Musk is probing major security leak. "We have the best technical minds looking at how this happened." Link

Hey dumbass, it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure this out. STOP USING SIGNAL for sensitive/classified communications. The government has spent millions upon millions of dollars on secure communication systems.

Hey dumb ass Musk said they are investigating how this happened not so they will continue to use the app.  Like Oreilly said today if Goldberg got on so could China or Russia.  The FBI needs to talk to Goldberg....

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Hey dumb ass Musk said they are investigating how this happened not so they will continue to use the app.  Like Oreilly said today if Goldberg got on so could China or Russia.  The FBI needs to talk to Goldberg....

Why does the FBI need to talk to Goldberg? He's already told his story publicly several times. What more could the FBI possibly learn from him?

[Hobby]

Amazes me that Hilary had classified documents all over server and she was deleting it from her server and other devices the Republicans where like sharks in the water going after her and Democrats played it down caring less about it.  Now Trump's team screws up and Democrats are all over it while Republicans play it down as no big deal.  This why I don't belong to either party.  Instead of working together finding the truth and fix the problem they fight, pointing fingers...

[thaikhan]

Careful now. People are going to start calling for your head for being a watchamicallit and all that for not picking a party to blindly follow and be loyal to. Mistakes happen but this was a big mistake. What makes it worse is that they're trying to act like it was nothing sensitive and not a big deal. Own up to your mistakes. They need to cut bait.

[Blkfyre]

Hey dumb ass Musk said they are investigating how this happened not so they will continue to use the app.  Like Oreilly said today if Goldberg got on so could China or Russia.  The FBI needs to talk to Goldberg....

Goldberg didn't add himself to the group, there is NO reason to talk to him about it.

[Bande]

If I recall correctly it is against the Law to publish classified information. Therefore the publisher would be jailed. Tells me media push with TDS syndrome...
Obviously was not classified information. Narrative to destroy Trump...

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If I recall correctly it is against the Law to publish classified information. Therefore the publisher would be jailed. Tells me media push with TDS syndrome...
Obviously was not classified information. Narrative to destroy Trump...

Wow, that must be why the New York Times got into trouble for publishing the Pentagon Papers! 

Hold on--I'm now being told they did not get into any trouble, and the Supreme Court ruled in their favor when the issue of prior restraint was litigated.

Also, maybe consider that the journalist has lawyers to consult before publishing something that might be sensitive, and then think about whether what you've said above makes sense.

[Danno]

maybe because it wasn't sensitive anymore

[Blkfyre]

If I recall correctly it is against the Law to publish classified information. Therefore the publisher would be jailed. Tells me media push with TDS syndrome...
Obviously was not classified information. Narrative to destroy Trump...

You are incorrect. Unless you are calling Trump a liar (which, we know he is, but will be fun hearing you say it! )

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/atlantic-magazine-publishes-more-texts-from-group-chat-on-war-plans/ar-AA1BHkQc

"US President Donald Trump said the texting of sensitive plans was "the only glitch in two months" and a non-issue. He said he believed the chat contained "no classified information"."

If the president says that it contained no classified information, then there is no reason he should be jailed, right?

Btw, on the OMG SO OFTEN mentioned TDS:
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"US President Donald Trump said the texting of sensitive plans was "the only glitch in two months" and a non-issue. He said he believed the chat contained "no classified information"."

If the president says that it contained no classified information, then there is no reason he should be jailed, right?

What? I believe the point Bande thought he was making was that since in his mind it's a crime to publish classified information, and nobody's talking about the journalist committing a crime, then the information must not have been classified. Which is also what you seem to be saying?

Anyway, you're both wrong. First, the information was most certainly classified under the criteria the government uses. That's not in dispute by anyone except Trump, his minions, and right-wing media liars.

Second, it's not explicitly a crime for a journalist to distribute classified information of the sort this journalist published.

Third, when this kind of information is released, if any blame is to be ascribed it would be to Pete Hegseth, who isn't qualified to handle the information of a child's lemonade stand, let alone the Pentagon.
 

[Blkfyre]

What? I believe the point Bande thought he was making was that since in his mind it's a crime to publish classified information, and nobody's talking about the journalist committing a crime, then the information must not have been classified. Which is also what you seem to be saying?

Anyway, you're both wrong. First, the information was most certainly classified under the criteria the government uses. That's not in dispute by anyone except Trump, his minions, and right-wing media liars.

Second, it's not explicitly a crime for a journalist to distribute classified information of the sort this journalist published.

Third, when this kind of information is released, if any blame is to be ascribed it would be to Pete Hegseth, who isn't qualified to handle the information of a child's lemonade stand, let alone the Pentagon.
 

I agree, that it is against the law.

Bande said that it was against the law to publish classified information and said saying that it was not classified was a "Narrative to destroy Trump"

If I recall correctly it is against the Law to publish classified information. Therefore the publisher would be jailed. Tells me media push with TDS syndrome...
Obviously was not classified information. Narrative to destroy Trump...

The problem is, TRUMP is the one who said it was not classified (video so it can not be asserted he was misquoted): (quote starts at :41 seconds)

So, either one of two things happened:

1) They shared classified information on an unsecured platform that was set to delete said information thus circumventing the Freedom of Information Act

2) Trump is lying about it not being classified because if his mouth is moving, he is lying. Such as Trump's administration saying somehow it was the *reporter's* fault for somehow hacking his way into the call, which, he wouldn't have been able to do if they used a government approved secure mode of communication of classified information. And, if Trump is not lying, then there is no reason for him to be jailed, right?

[Hobby]

In a bit of irony that would be funny if it weren't so dangerous, just this past Friday SecDef Hegseth announced "an investigation into unauthorized disclosures of sensitive and classified information across the Department of Defense."

The internal memo about that investigation specifically referenced "information identifying a party responsible for an unauthorized disclosure" and noted that "such information will be referred to the appropriate criminal law enforcement entity for criminal prosecution."

Hegseth should resign and be prosecuted, along with a few others, for this incredibly serious breach. But that will never happen. In the Trump administration, one's fitness to serve isn't competence or even a lack of criminality. Instead, the only thing that matters is one's loyalty to the president.

In a bit of irony that would be funny if it weren't so dangerous, just this past Friday SecDef Hegseth announced "an investigation into unauthorized disclosures of sensitive and classified information across the Department of Defense."

The internal memo about that investigation specifically referenced "information identifying a party responsible for an unauthorized disclosure" and noted that "such information will be referred to the appropriate criminal law enforcement entity for criminal prosecution."

Hegseth should resign and be prosecuted, along with a few others, for this incredibly serious breach. But that will never happen. In the Trump administration, one's fitness to serve isn't competence or even a lack of criminality. Instead, the only thing that matters is one's loyalty to the president.

To find someone guilty of a crime there must be intent.  I don't think Hegseth ever intended Goldberg to be on the chat...

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To find someone guilty of a crime there must be intent.  I don't think Hegseth ever intended Goldberg to be on the chat...

This isn't correct. It's still a crime if he did this through "gross negligence." See 18 U.S. Code Sec. 793.

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Bande said that it was against the law to publish classified information and said saying that it was not classified was a "Narrative to destroy Trump"

The problem is, TRUMP is the one who said it was not classified (video so it can not be asserted he was misquoted): (quote starts at :41 seconds)

I may have read too much into your post.