Vivek Ramaswamy suspends campaign and endorses Trump.
Link (https://www.npr.org/2024/01/15/1224751138/vivek-ramaswamy-suspends-campaign-and-endorses-trump)
Good bye to the class clown...for now. He probably will reemerge in some smarmy way.
That phony made a big deal about saying his campaign was based on "speaking the truth." Then he endorsed Trump.
What a country.
Ramalamadingdong didn't have a chance.
I suspect Haley will drop out after the New Hampshire primary, DeSantis will probably drop out after Super Tuesday.
Trump 2024
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 16, 2024, 03:44 PMRamalamadingdong didn't have a chance.
I suspect Haley will drop out after the New Hampshire primary, DeSantis will probably drop out after Super Tuesday.
Trump 2024
I think it might be the other way around. DeSantis is expected to perform badly in New Hampshire. He is going to focus on South Carolina with minimal effort in New Hampshire.
Niki Haley has the best chance of beating Joe Biden in the General Election.
who?
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 16, 2024, 03:44 PMRamalamadingdong didn't have a chance.
I suspect Haley will drop out after the New Hampshire primary, DeSantis will probably drop out after Super Tuesday.
Trump 2024
Are you trolling, or do you honestly wish to see Trump in the White House again?
It's obvious.
50% like Trump and 50% like Biden (maybe less recently), so the odds are......
Quote from: bats on Jan 16, 2024, 11:02 PMAre you trolling, or do you honestly wish to see Trump in the White House again?
He's the lesser of two evils, I certainly don't want the senile war monger in the White House again.
With all the "Joe is old" rhetoric, many seem to forget (or not be aware)
that Trump is only 3.5 years younger than Biden.
Biden was born just before the Pearl Harbor attack. Trump was born just after World War 2 ended.
Maybe Biden should dye his hair orange?
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 17, 2024, 05:36 AMHe's the lesser of two evils, I certainly don't want the senile war monger in the White House again.
Thanks. I'm always trying to understand why anyone would vote for the guy who has engaged in misconduct that makes Nixon's crimes seem like petty shoplifting.
Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 17, 2024, 09:30 AMWith all the "Joe is old" rhetoric, many seem to forget (or not be aware)
that Trump is only 3.5 years younger than Biden.
Biden was born just before the Pearl Harbor attack. Trump was born just after World War 2 ended.
Maybe Biden should dye his hair orange?
lol
At least Trump has his mental facilities, he passed a cognitive test.
If you ask Old Joe, I'll bet he would say "I know where the cog goes, come on man."
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 17, 2024, 01:30 PMlol
At least Trump has his mental facilities, he passed a cognitive test.
If you ask Old Joe, I'll bet he would say "I know where the cog goes, come on man."
And Biden hasn't, but then again, he hasn't taken one either. The absence does not constitute a failing one. That's like saying Trump must be a drug addict because he hasn't taken a test for one. Just because he acts like he's on drugs doesn't mean he's using :)
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 17, 2024, 01:30 PMlol
At least Trump has his mental facilities, he passed a cognitive test.
If you ask Old Joe, I'll bet he would say "I know where the cog goes, come on man."
We keep discussing cognitive tests.
The test that Trump took was a jokehttps://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=10354
We all know how Trump brags and embellishes things. Trump asks his doctor to give him an easy test, then brags about his cognitive abilities. The man is pathetic.
Quote from: HighStepper on Jan 18, 2024, 12:40 PMThe man is pathetic.
I agree Biden is pathetic, come on man jump on the Trump train.
Make America Normal Again
At least Trump talked to the press, he's an egomaniac and loves to hear himself speak but at least he talked to the press. Biden hasn't had a press conference in months, is he still alive?
Biden has been on TV everyday for months, just not on FOX.
No he hasn't other than MSNBC telling us how great the "dear leader" is.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 18, 2024, 03:41 PMAt least Trump talked to the press, he's an egomaniac and loves to hear himself speak but at least he talked to the press. Biden hasn't had a press conference in months, is he still alive?
This is rich. Trump may have talked to the press, but it was always for his own purposes, and he consistently demeaned their critical role in our democracy.
It's normal for a president to be somewhat at odds with the press. It's not normal, however, to call them the "enemy of the people" and "fake news." You know who does that? Fascist dictators.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 18, 2024, 03:41 PMAt least Trump talked to the press, he's an egomaniac and loves to hear himself speak but at least he talked to the press. Biden hasn't had a press conference in months, is he still alive?
You mean, like this which was done on 1/18/24?
https://www.youtube.com/live/bIg6MOwJ0d0?si=QM7btvvFv-02qdJx
Or maybe this on January 6th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL-ergKmXNE
Or this which was one month ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-u0LLFmGdA
Yeah, you are right, he hasn't shown up at all in MONTHS...
(Also, wasn't Trump the one who cancelled ALL Press briefings for almost a year?)
https://theconversation.com/trump-white-house-goes-300-days-without-a-press-briefing-why-thats-unprecedented-130164
Oh yeah, that's right, he did...
lmao
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 18, 2024, 03:41 PMAt least Trump talked to the press, he's an egomaniac and loves to hear himself speak but at least he talked to the press. Biden hasn't had a press conference in months, is he still alive?
Biden does a lot of press interactions called an "exchange with reporters." An exchange with reporters typically happens incidentally alongside some other meeting or event. These are often while the President is moving from one location to another and pauses to take questions from reporters.
You basically see Biden every day. If he were dead you would certainly know about it.
The Trump press conferences were filled with lies, bragging, and blaming.
Off topic but now Trump is pulling out the same old play book on Nikki Haley (who he 7th grade, name calls as "weather girl"--Haley----Haily-----get it?) as he did on Obama claiming she was not born in America and is not qualified to be President.....it seems mostly because she has foreign born parents and a first name that is not Donald or Jane. It seems she was born in SC though. Given that Trump reverses everything maybe he was not born in the US???? Read the book 1984 if you haven't....and be concerned.
Biden(and many Democrats) say if Trump is re-elected then our democracy will end: "Our democracy is at stake!"
lol hyperbole much?
That's what all politicians do, they slander their opponents.
Did you watch the Newsom-DeSantis debate?
There was some good old fashioned mud-slinging going on there.
Newsom: "Why do you wear go-go boots Ron?"
DeSantis: "Why does San Francisco have feces everywhere Gavin?"
Also DeSantis: "Why did your wife sleep with Harvey Weinstein Gavin?
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 19, 2024, 02:31 PMBiden(and many Democrats) say if Trump is re-elected then our democracy will end: "Our democracy is at stake!"
lol hyperbole much?
That's what all politicians do, they slander their opponents.
Did you watch the Newsom-DeSantis debate?
There was some good old fashioned mud-slinging going on there.
Newsom: "Why do you wear go-go boots Ron?"
DeSantis: "Why does San Francisco have feces everywhere Gavin?"
Also DeSantis: "Why did your wife sleep with Harvey Weinstein Gavin?
It's strange, You keep saying Biden, but keep saying things Trump is doing:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QX11W/
'TRUTHFUL HYPERBOLE'
Optimistic exaggeration, which Trump called "truthful hyperbole" in "The Art of the Deal," is a hallmark of the cutthroat New York real estate world where many developers, accustomed to ramming their way into deals, puff up their portfolios.
"A little hyperbole never hurts," he wrote. "People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular ... It's an innocent form of exaggeration - and a very effective form of promotion."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/28/politics/trump-exaggerates-unemployment-accomplishments/index.html
It's possible that Trump simply can't remember some of the accurate figures. But his exaggerations come not only in impromptu musings but when he is mostly reciting a prepared text. Though he occasionally cites the correct numbers, he embellishes so consistently -- and so consistently avoids the use of any figure that is lower than the true figure -- that we're confident it is intentional.
This is simply what the man does.
It has, after all, been his pattern for decades. Before Trump was exaggerating his poll numbers and the size of his rally crowds, he was exaggerating his wealth, his television ratings, the size of his buildings. As a developer, Trump was famous for marketing his properties as if they had many stories more than they did: "52" for a 44-story building, "90" for a 70-story building, "68" for his 58-story Trump Tower.
Even other conservatives talk about Trump and all the hyperbole he uses:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/356188-gop-senator-trump-doesnt-lie-he-uses-hyperbole/amp/
In an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Cassidy said that he does not try to parse the difference between whether Trump is lying or merely exaggerating, because it would distract him from "core" issues.
"This president speaks in hyperbole, and hyperbole is interpreted by some as lies, and by the president it is interpreted as just his exaggeration," Cassidy told host co-host Mika Brzezinski. "'The most beautiful in the world' — well, what's the most beautiful in the world? That's in the eye of the beholder."
"So the president has a manner of speaking which is easily taken as a lie, and the president will refute that," he continued. "I frankly don't focus on that, Mika."
Strange that Biden keeps being mistake for Trump by conservatives when there's proof to the contrary...
That's too long to read, can I get the Cliff's Notes version?
Too long for me to read too but I think the jist of it is what Trump accuses Biden of, he does something similar.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 19, 2024, 06:12 PMThat's too long to read, can I get the Cliff's Notes version?
Trump exaggerates and Trump says nothing wrong with it as everybody does it.
Trump projects the faults he has on to his opponents.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 19, 2024, 06:12 PMThat's too long to read, can I get the Cliff's Notes version?
Conservatives ignore Trump's failings and project them on his opponents.
Vivek rhymes with FAKE. That all I need to know about him.
Trump is showing the same 50% lead going into New Hampshire. The economy and the border are what matters to most Americans, he's going to President again so get use to it.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 09:05 AMTrump is showing the same 50% lead going into New Hampshire. The economy and the border are what matters to most Americans, he's going to President again so get use to it.
Why? You haven't gotten used to Biden *being* President, right? In fact, your opinion is just because he was elected doesn't make him a good president. So tell us again why it is we should get used to it?
The Canadian border must matter a lot to those in New Hampshire and since there is no big city there they are probably not being sent endless buses of southern migrants. As long as the maple syrup industry is ok they are fine.
The economy and (southern) border do not matter to me at all. I'd say I care most about taxes and health insurance costs, both of which need huge improvements. However few Presidents lately, no matter what party, have improved those much. Both costs keep going higher with less and less benefit, at least for me.
I have friends and family all over this country and they all the same thing: "they hate Biden".
If you get outside of dope-smoking California then you will hear what most Americans think.
As for the southern border: many Democrats are finally seeing the light we Republicans have been saying for years, even Adam Schiff(D) said it was unsustainable.
On 11/4/24 there will be crying in the streets when Trump wins again and their tears will be delicious.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 10:03 AMI have friends and family all over this country and they all the same thing: "they hate Biden".
If you get outside of dope-smoking California then you will hear what most Americans think.
I shouldn't have to say this, but for obvious reasons, your friends and family don't represent most Americans ::) .
Quote from: bats on Jan 20, 2024, 01:52 PMI shouldn't have to say this, but for obvious reasons, your friends and family don't represent most Americans ::) .
Yes they do.
They work and pay taxes, they want to live in a safe country with secure borders. They also don't want to be told what kind of appliances and cars they can own.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 01:58 PMYes they do.
They work and pay taxes, they want to live in a safe country with secure borders. They also don't want to be told what kind of appliances and cars they can own.
This is great news for political campaigns across the country. Their polling operations can be slimmed down now that word is out that the views held by your family and friends represent the views held by most Americans!
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 01:58 PMYes they do.
They work and pay taxes, they want to live in a safe country with secure borders. They also don't want to be told what kind of appliances and cars they can own.
Fairly certain you held the same opinion at the last election. How'd that majority of people work out for you then?
Senile Joe is going to lose just like the Packers did tonight.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 08:27 PMSenile Joe is going to lose just like the Packers did tonight.
That's a laugh. Your guy can't keep track of who he's supposed to lie about. Trumpers are so gullible.
Trump confused Haley with Pelosi. Senility? Ranting is a sign of dementia.
Biden is 81. Trump is 77.
So do Republicans believe one is senile only after age 80?
No one is convincing me 4 years makes much difference at those ages.
I have a feeling that in the 2028 Presidential election people will want candidates that are substantially younger.
Biden did the same thing the other day, he thought a Congresswoman was in attendance..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-appears-confuse-woman-dem-congresswoman-wasnt-in-attendance-mixed-up
Both candidates are old, I wish we had other choices but it's going to be Biden-Trump again.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 20, 2024, 10:03 AMI have friends and family all over this country and they all the same thing: "they hate Biden".
If you get outside of dope-smoking California then you will hear what most Americans think.
A lot depends on who one talks to and which news outlets one follows.
A more accurate assessment as to who is "hated" would come from actual votes cast.
Trump has never won the popular vote. Trump became president in 2016 because of an Electoral Map, not because most people liked him. Trump lost in 2020 because more people preferred Biden.
That may be true but this time around Biden will lose because he's a dismal failure.
Again, I'm not a huge Trump fan but I dislike Biden's policies(and so do most Americans).
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 21, 2024, 12:31 PMThat may be true but this time around Biden will lose because he's a dismal failure.
Again, I'm not a huge Trump fan but I dislike Biden's policies(and so do most Americans).
Uhm, last time people hated Trump's policies (and so did most Americans according to the polls)
Quote from: Blkfyre on Jan 21, 2024, 12:42 PMUhm, last time people hated Trump's policies (and so did most Americans according to the polls)
This time around a recent NBC(not Fox) poll showed the economy is #1 concern and the border being a close #2.
Economy being #1 concern makes sense. If often is, and more so now with the recent inflation.
Border #2? It was supposed to be age of candidates.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 21, 2024, 01:02 PMThis time around a recent NBC(not Fox) poll showed the economy is #1 concern and the border being a close #2.
Yes, because Trump was not beating the drum on both of those HARD back then. Oh wait, he was:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN27Q2HA/
Trump touted the economy; the economy voted for Biden
https://time.com/5858392/trump-poll-slump-border-wall/
As His Poll Numbers Slump, President Trump Returns to Arizona and the Border Wall
So, same issues, and back then the people said they are concerned about those issues, but not as much as having him in office...
As Biden's positive poll numbers continue to slump(currently at 17%) he will have to pull another stunt like "Russian disinformation" in order to win but the public ain't buying it this time.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 21, 2024, 06:11 PMAs Biden's positive poll numbers continue to slump(currently at 17%) he will have to pull another stunt like "Russian disinformation" in order to win but the public ain't buying it this time.
It's so sad that millions of Americans like you have fallen for the lies from Trump and the Republican machine. All credible intelligence assessments make clear that Russia has been interfering in our elections since at least 2016, and they're continuing their efforts.
I suppose you also believe the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. ::)
Good thing about Niki Haley, those who vote for her, it will take away from the dirty diaper orange train.
... You Know Who, the orange has disgraced our country. Disgusting how he smells, kicked out of a restaurant. Now Melania is back with him, I'm sure he has given her death threats to keep her hostage. She could take out the orange, all her secrets. Who in the hell put that stupid tan lotion on the con's face? He did. I love watching the orange spew hate that only kills every cell in his body. The demented orange is by his own creation. Make America Die Again ........... and again. That's what ALL his followers want, a dictator orange that tell them what to do, read only his book and not think for themselves. Watch those suckers die for him.
he looked like burnt toast the other day
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 19, 2024, 02:31 PMBiden(and many Democrats) say if Trump is re-elected then our democracy will end: "Our democracy is at stake!"
lol hyperbole much?
That's what all politicians do, they slander their opponents.
Did you watch the Newsom-DeSantis debate?
There was some good old fashioned mud-slinging going on there.
Newsom: "Why do you wear go-go boots Ron?"
DeSantis: "Why does San Francisco have feces everywhere Gavin?"
Also DeSantis: "Why did your wife sleep with Harvey Weinstein Gavin?
It's not about mudslinging. People with an understanding of history and authoritarian regimes have been saying this since Trump came down the escalator in 2015. Few took it seriously then because few took Trump the candidate seriously.
Now, we've lived through four years of Trump's attempts to destroy the institutions that our democracy depends on. We've seen him engage in a multi-faceted effort to cling to power even after he knew he'd lost the 2020 election. And he continues to claim he won, further damaging faith in our elections, despite getting his ass handed to him in sixty or so legal contests across the country.
Do you know who worried about a man like Trump destroying America's democracy? None other than Abraham Lincoln. In 1838, when he was just 28 years old, Lincoln gave a speech to the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois. His subject that day?
The Perpetuation of our Political Institutions.Lincoln spoke of the complacency that had naturally set in since the bygone days when Americans fought for (and won) their independence. He spoke of the mob violence that had then become prevalent, "the increasing disregard for law," and Americans' tendency, in the wake of the Founding Era, "to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts."
He worried about a figure so ambitious that he would seek out distinction through any means, and if not by building, then by tearing down. Lincoln was wrong in suggesting this man would be a "towering genius," but he was right about such a man's ambition for distinction.
You can read the entire speech at the link below, but Lincoln's point was that the American experiment in self-governance was subject to failure if we disregard the rule of law. And Trump has been leading his millions of followers to disregard the rule of law so that he can distinguish himself at our expense.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0006.103/--perpetuation-of-our-political-institutions-address?rgn=main;view=fulltext