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Title: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 20, 2024, 08:49 PM
Yesterday, Trump posted on his social media site that the court in the NY AG case is requiring him to post a bond before appealing the judgment against him. That was, of course, a lie. No such requirement has been imposed, and his lawyers had already filed the appeal when Trump made his post.

Today, Trump sent a text to supporters asking them for money. He wrote, in part:

I'm calling on ONE MILLION Pro-Trump patriots to chip in and say: STOP THE WITCH HUNT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP!

So, to invoke LL Cool J, Trump is fundraising off his lies about the lies that he lied about.

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Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 20, 2024, 08:54 PM
They'll need to contribute at least $500 each.....ALL of them.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Bande on Mar 20, 2024, 11:52 PM
Quote from: bats on Mar 20, 2024, 08:49 PMYesterday, Trump posted on his social media site that the court in the NY AG case is requiring him to post a bond before appealing the judgment against him. That was, of course, a lie. No such requirement has been imposed, and his lawyers had already filed the appeal when Trump made his post.

Today, Trump sent a text to supporters asking them for money. He wrote, in part:

I'm calling on ONE MILLION Pro-Trump patriots to chip in and say: STOP THE WITCH HUNT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP!

So, to invoke LL Cool J, Trump is fundraising off his lies about the lies that he lied about.

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Maybe if you researched you would see this is not a lie. Your source is feeding you bullshit..

The bond would prevent the New York attorney general's office, which brought the civil fraud case against Mr. Trump, from collecting the $454 million while Mr. Trump's appeal is heard. Without it, the attorney general, Letitia James, is entitled to collect at any moment.

Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM
Quote from: Bande on Mar 20, 2024, 11:52 PMMaybe if you researched you would see this is not a lie. Your source is feeding you bullshit..

The bond would prevent the New York attorney general's office, which brought the civil fraud case against Mr. Trump, from collecting the $454 million while Mr. Trump's appeal is heard. Without it, the attorney general, Letitia James, is entitled to collect at any moment.


Trump claimed the bond requirement was a condition of appealing uniquely imposed on him. You've now said he wasn't lying, but you contradicted yourself by noting that the bond only prevents collection during the appeal.

Moreover, requiring a bond to prevent collection during an appeal is standard procedure. Trump is lying to you when he says this has never been done before.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 21, 2024, 09:08 AM
I heard on the news that Truth Social might be going public next week which would give Trump over $3 billion.
I'm not on Truth Social or plan on buying his stock but I think it's hilarious, no matter what Democrats do to bring him down Trump finds a way to stick it to them. He truly is the "Teflon Don".
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 21, 2024, 09:37 AM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 21, 2024, 09:08 AMI heard on the news that Truth Social might be going public next week which would give Trump over $3 billion.
I'm not on Truth Social or plan on buying his stock but I think it's hilarious, no matter what Democrats do to bring him down Trump finds a way to stick it to them. He truly is the "Teflon Don".
Even if that were to happen, Trump would have to hold his shares for six months before selling, which is an issue since he needs the cash now. Additionally, Trumpers may not grasp that the stock price of the shell company that would take Truth Social public is being driven up by nothing other than their own over-exuberance, and the price could tank on news that Trump was selling his shares. Thus, it's doubtful that Trump would ever be able to cash in, but either way, his supporters would be left holding the bag as usual.

So, yes, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Danno on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07 AM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 21, 2024, 09:08 AMI heard on the news that Truth Social might be going public next week which would give Trump over $3 billion.
I'm not on Truth Social or plan on buying his stock but I think it's hilarious, no matter what Democrats do to bring him down Trump finds a way to stick it to them. He truly is the "Teflon Don".

the only ones he is sticking it to, is the dumb asses giving him money. lol
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 21, 2024, 12:31 PM
Quote from: Danno on Mar 21, 2024, 11:07 AMthe only ones he is sticking it to, is the dumb asses giving him money. lol

The same can be said of those who donate money to Biden or any Democrat.

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/ads-gs-dd-bvfsearch-jan2024?refcode=om2023_ads_gs_230630_exmdonate_dd_us_all_donate&refcode2=2024evergreen&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_O_NzYuGhQMVjRWtBh2BCgFyEAAYASAAEgJStfD_BwE

'Your contribution will benefit Biden Victory Fund.' lol
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Danno on Mar 21, 2024, 01:26 PM
Biden isn't a criminal that needs money to stay out of jail.
Just what do you think Trump will do for you?
What did he do for you when he was in office?
I will be fact checking so don't throw out something like the disaster tariffs on China.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 21, 2024, 04:37 PM
Bande is right Trump is wrong. Trump has under the law an unequivocal right to appeal. The bond is to keep his property from being seized while the appeal is pending.

Being a longtime American patriot I'm sending $500 to Trump. I don't want him to have to suffer the loss of his billion dollar properties.  Is not better to give Trump the money rather than spending it on fast women?
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Hobby on Mar 24, 2024, 09:22 PM
Being a longtime American patriot I'm sending $500 to Trump. I don't want him to have to suffer the loss of his billion dollar properties.  Is not better to give Trump the money rather than spending it on fast women?

You are kidding right?  Fuck no its not better to give Trump money.  Trump now claims he has had the cash all along... Trump should lose everything the mother fucker belongs in prison.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 25, 2024, 02:11 AM
I just realized, that since I contributed to Nikki Haley's campaign and voted for her in the California Primary. Trump said he does not want my money and he is kicking me out of the MAGA camp. So, I will just keep my money for the ladies, lol.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: zoezane on Mar 25, 2024, 07:28 AM
HighStepper - keep your money for the ladies has many benefits.  Thank you so much XO
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 07:16 PM
Trump Media stock goes public on Tuesday...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/25/investing/trump-media-stock-trading/index.html

Trump's response...

Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 25, 2024, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 07:16 PMTrump Media stock goes public on Tuesday...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/25/investing/trump-media-stock-trading/index.html
From the article you linked:

At current prices, Trump's stake is valued at about $4 billion. However, there are lock-up restrictions that would likely prevent Trump from selling or even borrowing against the value of that stock for months.

* * *

Trump Media generated just $3.4 million of revenue through the first nine months of last year, according to SEC filings. The company posted a net loss of $49 million over that span.

Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 25, 2024, 09:01 PM
Just like so many of Trump's schemes DJT (new ticker symbol for new company) is another house of cards that will collapse but not on Trump.....on all that support him.  Making money off the backs of others......  SPACs are a huge disaster for the most part and exempt from typical IPO regulations.  Fools will invest.  All the original investors want is $10/sh so once they can sell they'll drive the price down from their selling and everyone that bought above that loses.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:08 PM
All tech stocks are overvalued, look at what happened in 1999-2000 when dot-com bubble burst.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 25, 2024, 09:09 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:08 PMAll tech stocks are overvalued, look at what happened in 1999-2000 when the tech market collapsed.
This is nothing like that.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:20 PM
Quote from: bats on Mar 25, 2024, 09:09 PMThis is nothing like that.

It's exactly like that, investors buy over-valued stocks and then the smart investors sell leaving the suckers with worthless stocks. It happened in 1873, 1929, 1987, 2000 and 2008...people never learn.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 25, 2024, 09:47 PM
Like almost EVERYTHING, things are what people value it as, realistic or not.
Is money (printed on cotton paper with special ink) really worth much?
Can you eat or drink it? No. 
it's worth something because there is a trust system where others give it value for commerce.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: bats on Mar 25, 2024, 10:30 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:20 PMIt's exactly like that, investors buy over-valued stocks and then the smart investors sell leaving the suckers with worthless stocks. It happened in 1873, 1929, 1987, 2000 and 2008...people never learn.
This is different because Truth Social's shell company is not just another overvalued tech stock. It's a meme stock, a pump-and-dump, a SPAC whose price is being driven up by Trump-supporting suckers.

The only "smart" investors here will be people who get lucky in timing their shorts.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 25, 2024, 10:56 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:08 PMAll
lmfao....ok
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Danno on Mar 26, 2024, 09:53 AM
sounds like you are rooting for a market crash. how patriotic of you. right out of Trump play book.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 25, 2024, 09:20 PMIt's exactly like that, investors buy over-valued stocks and then the smart investors sell leaving the suckers with worthless stocks. It happened in 1873, 1929, 1987, 2000 and 2008...people never learn.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 26, 2024, 10:09 AM
I want the stock market to go up, just like Trump wants his stock to go up.
DJT is up big time on it's opening day.

I'm just saying be smart when investing and never bet more than you can afford to lose.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Danno on Mar 26, 2024, 11:52 AM
Trump is hoping the market crashes, where have you been
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: zoezane on Mar 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
@bats you correct about the scam stock of trump, the guy has never been a billionaire, everything he does is a big lie.

I watched TWTR go up just like DJT, the stock never went anywhere, this is just another scam by Mr. Raping Scumbag Trump (it's horrifying how maga gop followers support a bloodbath rapist)
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 26, 2024, 12:16 PM
'After Trump Media announced it will make its stock market debut on Tuesday, Trump for the first time joined the list of the world's 500 wealthiest people on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

Bloomberg estimated Trump's net worth spiked by $4 billion on Monday alone, giving him a fortune of $6.5 billion.'


DJT is up 40% today.

Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 26, 2024, 12:21 PM
I assess stocks mainly by their financials.  DJT made about $4M last year (pathetic), has about $80M in debt (way too high---very leveraged!) is far from profitable ($50M loss), and yet the market value is now $9B.  That makes zero sense based on a fundamental value analysis.  Based on revenue, I would not pay more than 15 cents per share (=$20M) for DJT (but then get saddled with $80M in debt) not the $70 it is currently at.....lol. 500x overpriced IMO.  Does it have future potential?  Will it grow into its current value?  Well supposedly TMTG lost 50% of its users last year so that's not a good trend.  Can it be sold or acquired for $10B+?  Who would?  Until it's profitable any acquisition would be a terrible investment.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 26, 2024, 01:04 PM
There was a huge sell-off at the end of the day, take the money and run.
I wouldn't buy DJT either as a long-term investment.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 26, 2024, 02:07 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Mar 26, 2024, 12:16 PM'After Trump Media announced it will make its stock market debut on Tuesday, Trump for the first time joined the list of the world's 500 wealthiest people on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

Bloomberg estimated Trump's net worth spiked by $4 billion on Monday alone, giving him a fortune of $6.5 billion.'


DJT is up 40% today.



And yet, his lawyers are STILL claiming he can't raise the bond, this despite his saying previously he had that much liquid: https://nypost.com/2024/03/22/us-news/trump-slams-political-hack-judge-in-ny-civil-fraud-case-says-he-has-nearly-500m-bond-amount-in-cash/

"Through hard work, talent, and luck, I currently have almost five hundred million dollars in cash, a substantial amount of which I intended to use in my campaign for president," Trump, 77, wrote in all caps on Truth Social.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: zoezane on Mar 26, 2024, 03:18 PM
@dogwalker -great assessment, I do the same thing xo
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: zoezane on Mar 26, 2024, 06:16 PM
I just want to know how magas listens to brain dead trump talk ... what is wrong with him and his people, this is presidental material?  I guess mags want to be conned more so they hate life more.  It is only going to get worse with trump babbling.  So embarrassing for this election 2024 and the world is laughing at us.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Good%20for%20Trump%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 26, 2024, 07:58 PM
The fate of DJT could be interesting.  All SPACs are funded by the original investors (in DWAC in this case) at $10/share.  Given that most SPACs eventually fall below that price after they identify an investment and merge with it, and given the horrible financial state of TMTC, whether DJT remains at ~$60/share may be a test of whether investors believe in DJT (and keep the stock price higher than $10) or just want their investment back (in which case selling may drive the price down to $10 or less).  Usually selling shareholders (prior to merger) can't sell shares for 6 months.  However the Board of Directors can change that.  So contrary to what I see in the news, Trump could cash out soon although usually that is not a good look when the major shareholder is selling.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 27, 2024, 12:07 AM
Quote from: dogwalker on Mar 26, 2024, 07:58 PMHowever the Board of Directors can change that.  So contrary to what I see in the news, Trump could cash out soon although usually that is not a good look when the major shareholder is selling.
Bingo!
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 27, 2024, 12:31 AM
Jeff Yass, a billionaire Republican mega donor, was the biggest institutional shareholder of a shell company that merged with former President Donald Trump's social media company last week, according to the New York Times.

Yass is also a major shareholder in ByteDance, which owns TikTok. The House earlier this month voted to force the company to sell TikTok. Trump, who previously supported banning TikTok in the U.S., reversed his stance ahead of the bill shortly after a meeting with Yass, though he said the two never discussed TikTok. Link (https://www.salon.com/2024/03/25/top-billionaire-megadonor-had-big-stake-in-company-in-trumps-truth-social-deal-report/)


Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 27, 2024, 01:33 AM
I was wondering who the founders and major shareholders of DWAC are.  No surprise it seems to be a bunch of ass kissers kissing each others ass (or Yass) in the name of Trump so they all can make a lot of money at other's ill informed (non-insider) expense.  Instead of pump and dump, in this case maybe it should be called Trump and dump.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Romanticlover on Mar 27, 2024, 07:39 AM
Now Trump is selling a Bible, I'm pretty sure he's broken a few of the 10 commandments. lol

Biden came out with his own Bible...

Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Bande on Mar 27, 2024, 12:00 PM
Quote from: dogwalker on Mar 25, 2024, 09:01 PMJust like so many of Trump's schemes DJT (new ticker symbol for new company) is another house of cards that will collapse but not on Trump.....on all that support him.  Making money off the backs of others......  SPACs are a huge disaster for the most part and exempt from typical IPO regulations.  Fools will invest.  All the original investors want is $10/sh so once they can sell they'll drive the price down from their selling and everyone that bought above that loses.
As many do in Washington. Nothing new. All the Insider Trading happening.
You think Biden would take no salary? Hell no, Bidens in it for the money as many are.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Bande on Mar 27, 2024, 12:01 PM
Quote from: dogwalker on Mar 27, 2024, 01:33 AMI was wondering who the founders and major shareholders of DWAC are.  No surprise it seems to be a bunch of ass kissers kissing each others ass (or Yass) in the name of Trump so they all can make a lot of money at other's ill informed (non-insider) expense.  Instead of pump and dump, in this case maybe it should be called Trump and dump.
What you speak is 90% of America being ASSKISSERS. No one can think for themselves.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 27, 2024, 12:16 PM
Quote from: Bande on Mar 27, 2024, 12:00 PMAs many do in Washington. Nothing new. All the Insider Trading happening.
You think Biden would take no salary? Hell no, Bidens in it for the money as many are.


Uhm, 99.9% of Americans work a job for the money. That's WHY you work the job, right?
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: Danno on Mar 27, 2024, 01:13 PM
NEWS FLASH. Trump took his pay. He lied about that too. See a trend here.
 
Many Democrats' have introduced bills so members of congress can't trade stocks. guess who shoots it down every time?
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: zoezane on Mar 27, 2024, 02:47 PM
@Bande -thank you, I agree.  Trump lies about everything (broken records) Maga are still buying his snake bible oils.  I can see it now if Trump is assassinated, in jail or brain dead, Maga will start a civil war.  Do Maga think they can overturn the gov?  Probably.  They don't see their slavery to his dictatorship, insane. Maga GOP republicans are all into self-abuse by Trump.  I've had encounters with Magas, they are extremely mad, life really sucks.  Cults never end well.  They found one person with a big mouth who supports their complaints and hates life, never thankful for anything.  Maga brains on fire, it consumes them, they will never see clearly how they abuse themselves, rage on steroids foster by Trump and Putin.
Title: Re: Trump Cons Supporters chapter 12,389
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 28, 2024, 12:42 PM
Quote from: Danno on Mar 27, 2024, 01:13 PMNEWS FLASH. Trump took his pay. He lied about that too. See a trend here.
 
Many Democrats' have introduced bills so members of congress can't trade stocks. guess who shoots it down every time?
MAGA people think Trump is not in it for the money. They are kept in the dark about Trump's businesses accepting more than $7.8 million from foreign governments during his presidency, with China responsible for over $5.5 million of those payments.