Now that we have a Speaker of the House, let the investigation begin.
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Well the Democrats investigated Trump ad nauseum so it's Biden's turn.
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Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 07, 2023, 07:19 AMWell the Democrats investigated Trump ad nauseum so it's Biden's turn.
Uhm, you do remember that Republicans are the ones who like useless investigations right?
Because the Republicans started it with Bengazi, yet another fruitless money sink that, like their other money sink of Obama's birth certificate ended up doing nothing other than cost the tax payers money and waste time...
Well a few American diplomats died in Libya because Hillary was asleep, I think it was a necessary investigation.
How would you like to be in a foreign country and the US government says: "Sorry, you're on your own."
All parties have been going after each other for 200 years, nothing new here.
A Republican was physically beaten by a Democrat in Congress:
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm
at least she didn't take the 5th over and over. testified for 11 hrs. that's how it works when you don't have anything to hide.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 07, 2023, 11:26 AMWell a few American diplomats died in Libya because Hillary was asleep, I think it was a necessary investigation.
How would you like to be in a foreign country and the US government says: "Sorry, you're on your own."
All parties have been going after each other for 200 years, nothing new here.
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Yep, Sen Bobby Kennedy(D) had hearings in the late 50's on organized crime. He went after Jimmy Hoffa who was the head of the Teamsters and was a Republican, they finally put Hoffa in prison but Nixon pardoned him.
Quote from: HighStepper on Jan 06, 2023, 10:38 PMNow that we have a Speaker of the House, let the investigation begin.
Here's what the incoming chair of the House Oversight Committee has in mind, as related by him during a speech designed, apparently, to remind the conference of the urgency of getting on with it for the sake of the American people:
[The people] deserve answers to what really happened in that lab in Wuhan, China. Those of us who have kids in the public school system can testify that our kids have lost a year of their education because of the forced virtual learning that so many of our schools put our children through during the Covid pandemic. Congress ran the debt up at least $3 trillion in the name of Covid-19. Yet as I mentioned earlier, there has not been a single hearing in the Oversight Committee to deal with potential waste, fraud, or abuse of the Covid funds. Not a single hearing. And we all know, despite what Dr. Fauci said, American tax dollars were sent through EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan lab in China for gain-of-function research, but yet Dr. Fauci hasn't come before Congress and the House of Representatives[...]Now let me say this loud and clear: The Republicans will also investigate a president for potential wrongdoing in Ukraine and Russia, as well as China. The American people have a lot of questions for Dr. Fauci, Christopher Wray, Merrick Garland, and Secretary Mayorkas. We can't have those questions, we can't ask those questions until we get organized and elect our speaker. The role of the Oversight Committee under Speaker Pelosi was a full-time committee to harass the previous president, a committee to advocate for woke social issues, which the Oversight Committee has absolutely no jurisdiction over.So, pretty much what we expected. Investigate everything that the conspiracy theorists have been promoting, including the origins of COVID and whether Dr. Fauci had any role in funding "gain-of-function" research, a subject that is casually bandied about by these mooks as though they have even the slightest idea what it means.
Note, however, that he is careful not to refer to Hunter Biden's laptop, because that wouldn't be something the Oversight Committee has any business investigating. No, they're going to pretend to investigate the president himself, because as we know a lot of their constituents believe that "China Biden" has been involved in all kinds of shady deals with China and Ukraine.
It's going to be just as stupid as it promises to be, but with so many concessions to the extremists it could also be catastrophic if, for example, they use the debt ceiling as a weapon.
These next two years are going to be even more dysfunctional than usual in Congress, and it will be the fault of the Republicans alone.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 07, 2023, 11:26 AMWell a few American diplomats died in Libya because Hillary was asleep, I think it was a necessary investigation.
How would you like to be in a foreign country and the US government says: "Sorry, you're on your own."
All parties have been going after each other for 200 years, nothing new here.
You say that like it was the first, or last time that happened: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/attacks-against-american-diplomats/
You're the one who mentioned Benghazi, not me.
As for Beirut in 1983, I remember when Reagan sent the Marines there and I thought it was a terrible idea. It was horrible what happened to them and Congress investigated the incident.
See, I can be critical of Republicans when they make a mistake.
One side is perfect. The other side never is as long as the side someone supports is the perfect one.....lol
Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 07, 2023, 06:58 PMOne side is perfect. The other side never is as long as the side someone supports is the perfect one.....lol
Both sides are subject to corrupting influences. Both sides are deeply flawed.
But one side at least operates in the factual realm and is generally supportive of democratic principles. I'm with those guys.
Quote from: bats on Jan 07, 2023, 09:09 PMBoth sides are subject to corrupting influences. Both sides are deeply flawed.
But one side at least operates in the factual realm and is generally supportive of democratic principles. I'm with those guys.
Especially the media. The media lost all credibility when Walter Cronkite died.
Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 07, 2023, 06:58 PMOne side is perfect. The other side never is as long as the side someone supports is the perfect one.....lol
You only had to wait one post to be proven right
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Quote from: bats on Jan 07, 2023, 09:09 PMBoth sides are subject to corrupting influences. Both sides are deeply flawed.
But one side at least operates in the factual realm and is generally supportive of democratic principles. I'm with those guys.
Speaking of corrupting influences and operating in the absence of facts, until tonight I missed what McCarthy said to reporters following his election:
"I do want to especially thank President Trump. I don't think anybody should doubt his influence. He was with me from the beginning.... He would call me and he would call others.... Thank you, President Trump."Wow. McCarthy and the extremists are still willing to let Donald Trump lead them around by the nose. This is the guy who perpetrated the Big Lie and led a wide-ranging conspiracy in a failed effort to overturn the result of an election that didn't go his way, even going so far as to encourage (and perhaps even participate in organizing) deadly violence at the Capitol on January 6th.
Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 07, 2023, 10:56 PMYeh it's hilarious. Most people have no ability to critically and honestly analyze anything and then make up their own mind independent of influence. Instead they regurgitate what they WANT to believe or what they were exposed to (brainwashed by?) during their life. That's the lame way to think but most people are too lazy, uneducated, stubborn, etc. to do anything else.
I would argue that the truly lazy way to think is to notice that neither side is perfect and then conclude that they are therefore exactly the same.
I'm more interested in Kassidy's laptop: https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Kassidybaby
Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 08, 2023, 12:00 AMI'm more interested in Kassidy's laptop: https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Kassidybaby
That makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense is when someone who is willfully uninformed, as you seem to be, nevertheless sits in judgment of the opinions of those who
do make the effort to become informed.
Hunter Biden is not part of the Executive Branch so congress has no business investigating... DOJ is already doing it...so why waste time and money on Hunter?
Quote from: Hobby on Jan 08, 2023, 07:50 PMHunter Biden is not part of the Executive Branch so congress has no business investigating... DOJ is already doing it...so why waste time and money on Hunter?
That's why the conservative dipshit James Comer, the new leader of one of the oversight committees, has been careful to say that they will be investigating not Hunter Biden, but rather Joe Biden. But we all know these jackals will find a way to stick their noses into the laptop fiasco because that's what their base has been salivating over ever since photos surfaced showing Hunter doing coke with hookers, or whatever it was that he was doing.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 07, 2023, 11:26 AMWell a few American diplomats died in Libya because Hillary was asleep, I think it was a necessary investigation.
Two years, $7 million, 800 pages later, GOP Benghazi report found no evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton in the 2012 attacks in Libya,
Republican Representative Richard Hanna, said the House Select Committee on Benghazi is meant to go after former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
House Republican majority leader Kevin McCarthy admitted Benghazi panel was a partisan vehicle to drive down Hillary Clinton's poll numbers.Link (https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-committee/index.html)
Quote from: Romanticlover on Jan 07, 2023, 11:31 AMA Republican was physically beaten by a Democrat in Congress:
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm
We have been through this before. The free the slaves Republican party is NOT the Republican party of today. The 1856 Democratic Party is the same party as today.
Quote from: HighStepper on Jan 09, 2023, 01:01 AMThe 1856 Democratic Party is the same party as today.
That I agree with, Democrats have always been obsessed with race instead of the content of their character.
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If you want to talk about wasted Congressional hearings then look no further than the Democrats in the 1950's to the early 1970's, Sen. Carey Estes Kefauver(D) held hearings on organized crime from 1950 until his death in 1963. As I mentioned earlier, Sen. Bobby Kennedy(D) and other Democrats went on a witch hunt too.
How about we don't go back so far to look for Republican waste of tax dollars in a vendetta against a president:
The same thing happened with Obama. The Republican congress basically shut down helping America and their top priority was stopping Obama: https://www.tevitroy.org/8245/mcconnell-under-fire
""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," he said in the interview."
And look, almost EXACTLY the same words again with Biden: https://www.wsj.com/articles/mcconnell-says-100-of-his-focus-is-on-blocking-biden-agenda-11620257305
"One-hundred percent of our focus is on stopping this new administration," McConnell said, adding, "We're confronted with severe challenges from a new administration, and a narrow majority of Democrats in the House and a 50-50 Senate to turn America into a socialist country, and that's 100 percent of my focus."
Funny, I thought you were elected to pass laws to make the lives of the people you represent better, not pursue political agendas in retaliation for a big liar not being relected?