Electric Cars..

Started by Bande, Apr 15, 2023, 06:54 PM

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HighStepper

owners of vehicles with internal combustion engines will still be permitted to operate or resell them after 2035.

With the average lifespan of a car in the U.S. pegged at about 12 years, there will be a need for gasoline for decades to come.

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Electric vehicles are forecast to be half of global car sales by 2035 Link
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dogwalker

i have doubts electric cars are as good and green as is pushed on us by car makers, the media, etc.
If you think burning fossil fuels is bad then obviously electric cars reduce some of that.
However some criticisms I have about them are:
     Electric cars contain a lot of plastic which is made from........OIL!
     They contain a lot of steel, toxic metals in their batteries, etc which are not renewable and not green.
     What happens to the large, non-recyclable batteries when the battery is dead?  People already whine about the smaller lithium batteries in landfills.
     Why is it when many states, California being one of them, whine about how electricity is in short supply they encourage the use of electric vehicles?  Where is all the extra electricity that is needed for what is projected (or legislated) to be millions of electric vehicles coming from?  Some people use electricity made from solar panels which does not tax the electric grid....although solar panels are made of plastic and toxic metals.  As for people that plug into their home electricity or charging stations, some amount of that electricity is currently made by burning coal, natural gas (a by product of OIL exploration), etc. and many have doubts wind farms, solar panel farms, etc. could ever supply all of our electric needs.
 
So how good are electric vehicles, really, for the environment?  Or is this another dumb idea of several in recent history that we will eventually realize sounded good in theory but was a horrible mistake in practice?

If oil really does run completely dry in the not so distant future them I guess we have little choice other to use something other than oil for transportation other than things like walking, bicycles, riding horses, etc.  It was said that oil was going to run out sooner than currently projected but technology improved so that more oil was found and recovered.  Electrical generation isn't unlimited either....

HighStepper

Quote from: dogwalker on Apr 16, 2023, 11:05 AMWhere is all the extra electricity that is needed for what is projected (or legislated) to be millions of electric vehicles coming from?

Nuclear energy. We have been safely operating nuclear submarines since 1954.
We need to build safe nuclear power plants. It is possible.

Germany due to politics closed all theirs. France continues to successfully run theirs.
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