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Title: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Blkfyre on Feb 20, 2024, 01:16 PM
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/19/1232447088/historians-presidents-survey-trump-last-biden-14th

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The 2024 edition of the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey has Biden in 14th place, just ahead of Woodrow Wilson and Ronald Reagan. Trump comes in 45th, behind fellow impeachee Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan, the perennial cellar-dweller in such ratings due to his pre-Civil War leadership.

On the survey's 0-100 scale of "overall greatness," a rating of 50 means a president was average, while zero means a president is considered a failure. Only the top three presidents — Abraham Lincoln at No. 1, followed by Franklin D. Roosevelt and then George Washington — scored above 90. The drop-off was sharp from there, with no one else above an 80 rating. Roughly half the presidents were rated below 50.

Obama was ranked #7 with a rating of 73.8.

Trump's overall rating was 10.92, easily the worst showing, while Biden's 62.66 had him tied with John Adams.

http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: CigarMan on Feb 20, 2024, 02:40 PM
Dropping Reagan behind Biden indicates the survey's bias.
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Danno on Feb 20, 2024, 02:55 PM
Reagan was the beginning of the end of the middle class. Biden is bring it back.
 During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion.
The Republicans only care about the debt when the Democratic are in control.
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Romanticlover on Feb 20, 2024, 04:03 PM
Biden will go down in history as the worst President: high inflation, stock market tanking, high interest rates, $34 Trillion national debt

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-believes-u-debt-093000484.html
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Danno on Feb 20, 2024, 04:36 PM
you must not pay attention to what is really going on.
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Danno on Feb 20, 2024, 04:41 PM
Trump has sold off all the property that Melania was to get when they get Divorced. Per their pre nup.
He even screws over the mother of his kid. lol
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: HighStepper on Feb 20, 2024, 05:06 PM
You heard it here December 2022
https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=10467

Historians will find Donald Trump to be the worst president, replacing President James Buchanan.
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: HighStepper on Feb 20, 2024, 05:41 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Feb 20, 2024, 04:03 PMBiden will go down in history as the worst President: high inflation, stock market tanking, high interest rates, $34 Trillion national debt

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-believes-u-debt-093000484.html
I call bushtit on that assertion being in the quoted article.
In your article:  The list of presidents who added the most debt by percentage begins with FDR (Dem.), followed by Woodrow Wilson (Dem.) and Ronald Reagan (Rep.). BTW, Biden is not mentioned in your article.

Conservative Republicans knock Trump for adding around $8 trillion to the national debt

Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: Romanticlover on Feb 20, 2024, 05:46 PM
If Democrats are going to blame Reagan for adding $738 billion to the national debt during his Presidency then I can blame Biden for having the highest national debt in US history.

These are the facts: most Americans care about the economy(#1) and the border(a close #2)
Title: Re: In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call
Post by: HighStepper on Feb 20, 2024, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Romanticlover on Feb 20, 2024, 05:46 PMIf Democrats are going to blame Reagan for adding $738 billion to the national debt during his Presidency then I can blame Biden for having the highest national debt in US history.
I did not know that billionaire Jamie Dimon is a Democrat.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Feb 20, 2024, 05:46 PMThese are the facts: most Americans care about the economy(#1) and the border(a close #2)
The economy is getting better. As to the border the fault lies with Donald Trump and MAGA Mike Johnson.