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General Interest and Lifestyles => Freedom Hall (politics) => Topic started by: Bande on Jun 29, 2022, 07:32 PM

Title: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Bande on Jun 29, 2022, 07:32 PM
Nail On by Tucker..

Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: HighStepper on Jun 29, 2022, 09:05 PM
Hey I put the playback setting to double speed and hung in for a long as I could. His rant defending Peter Navarro indicted for contempt of Congress as simply being disrespectful and there is no law that says you have to respect anyone fits right in with typical Tucker. Fox lawyers and the courts have warned, no reasonable person would view him as being factual.

If Tucker made any valid points that could be documented from other sources that would be great.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 29, 2022, 09:15 PM
Both Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow both escaped lawsuits by having judges dismiss said lawsuits because their own audience understands that the shows consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when they uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them.  Basically both are full of shit, are opinion pieces/shows and not facts.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Hobby on Jun 29, 2022, 09:35 PM


Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 29, 2022, 09:15 PMBoth Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow both escaped lawsuits by having judges dismiss said lawsuits because their own audience understands that the shows consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when they uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them.  Basically both are full of shit, are opinion pieces/shows and not facts.

"Basically both are full of shit, are opinion pieces/shows and not facts."

Now now... you are talking about Bande's hero Tucker the Fucker and Blkfyre ATF Madcow...LOL
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Blkfyre on Jun 29, 2022, 10:11 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Jun 29, 2022, 09:35 PM"Basically both are full of shit, are opinion pieces/shows and not facts."

Now now... you are talking about Bande's hero Tucker the Fucker and Blkfyre ATF Madcow...LOL

Why I respond to this, I don't know, but I know dick about Maddow other than she is a reporter on MSNBC, which I don't watch.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Hobby on Jun 29, 2022, 10:15 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 29, 2022, 10:11 PMWhy I respond to this, I don't know, but I know dick about Maddow other than she is a reporter on MSNBC, which I don't watch.

Whatever you say... we believe....
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 29, 2022, 10:44 PM
MSNBC is fake news
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: bats on Jun 30, 2022, 12:55 AM
Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 29, 2022, 09:15 PMBoth Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow both escaped lawsuits by having judges dismiss said lawsuits because their own audience understands that the shows consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when they uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them.  Basically both are full of shit, are opinion pieces/shows and not facts.
I think there's a misunderstanding about what those lawsuits meant for both Carlson and Maddow. Both were defending against claims of defamation, and in both cases, their lawyers argued, successfully, that the things they had said were reasonably understood as opinions rather than statements of fact.

Their lawyers made that argument not to suggest that their clients were "full of shit," but rather to point out that their statements were protected by the First Amendment. And in both cases the judges agreed.

Having said that, I think Carlson is deliberately misleading and untruthful, whereas Maddow at least tries to get the facts right despite her obvious bias.

Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: dogwalker on Jun 30, 2022, 06:19 AM
People are not raised right these days.  Blame it on parents.
No anger management classes in school. People usually only take those after they are court ordered.
I blame a lot of it on social media which allows anyone and everyone to let out their inner animal and so they do. Zero self control.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 07:58 AM
Quote from: dogwalker on Jun 30, 2022, 06:19 AMPeople are not raised right these days.  Blame it on parents.
No anger management classes in school. People usually only take those after they are court ordered.
I agree on this.


I blame a lot of it on social media which allows anyone and everyone to let out their inner animal and so they do. Zero self control.


Freedom of the press.
Ultimately it is up to the people to research and go with their beliefs.
Problem is the majority are followers in which we are seeing the repercussions.


I love posting shit.
Many get there panTies in a UPROAR..
Funny shit one can not open up to other opinions that may open some eyes
Yes, lots may be BULLSHIT, Out of that bullshit there is some truths though.
Kind of like our Government feeding us propaganda to get there way on BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Hobby on Jun 30, 2022, 08:15 AM
Quote from: dogwalker on Jun 30, 2022, 06:19 AMPeople are not raised right these days.  Blame it on parents.
No anger management classes in school. People usually only take those after they are court ordered.
I blame a lot of it on social media which allows anyone and everyone to let out their inner animal and so they do. Zero self control.

It's poor potty training... LOL
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Blkfyre on Jun 30, 2022, 08:39 AM
Quote from: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 07:58 AMFreedom of the press.
Ultimately it is up to the people to research and go with their beliefs.
Problem is the majority are followers in which we are seeing the repercussions.


I love posting shit.
Many get there panTies in a UPROAR..
Funny shit one can not open up to other opinions that may open some eyes
Yes, lots may be BULLSHIT, Out of that bullshit there is some truths though.
Kind of like our Government feeding us propaganda to get there way on BULLSHIT.


Except Tucker is NOT the press. His own lawyer said that. So that really doesn't apply. Does he still have the right to spew his bullshit and have people believe it's true? Well, that's obvious. But no, he in no way, shape, manner or form gets to hide behind freedom of the press. That is for people who say/print the truth...
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 08:46 AM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 30, 2022, 08:39 AMExcept Tucker is NOT the press. His own lawyer said that. So that really doesn't apply. Does he still have the right to spew his bullshit and have people believe it's true? Well, that's obvious. But no, he in no way, shape, manner or form gets to hide behind freedom of the press. That is for people who say/print the truth...

Yes he does.
This is a FREE country and he states his opinion that is not against the law.

Not indifferent from all the politicians spewing out their LIES.

AGAIN it is up to the PEOPLE to research and go from there.

Problem is this PUSSIFIED nation has became followers and LAZY to do that.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Blkfyre on Jun 30, 2022, 10:56 AM
Quote from: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 08:46 AMYes he does.
This is a FREE country and he states his opinion that is not against the law.

Not indifferent from all the politicians spewing out their LIES.

AGAIN it is up to the PEOPLE to research and go from there.

Problem is this PUSSIFIED nation has became followers and LAZY to do that.

Which part of my saying he still has the right to spew his bullshit did you not get?

It doesn't make it less bullshit and you are right, ANY research at all will show anybody how many lies it is he tells. The problem is the conservative use confirmation bias and thus doesn't actually do reasearch. They look at other people who tell them the same thing and say "Well THEY said I'm right, so I must be!". They have been conditioned by Trump not to trust the Press, Doctors, Scientists or anyone outside of Youtube crackpots, as is very, very obvious.

And when you do provide another viewpoint, rather than actually showing their research outside of a Youtube nutbag or a person that even FOX says reasonable people shouldn't believe, that same conservative confirmation bias turns around and attack to deflect and to repeat slogans and veiled insults. Because that's what the conspiracy theory nutjobs tell them to do, train them to do, indoctrinate them to do.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Danno on Jun 30, 2022, 11:10 AM
so you admit that Trump lied about the election

Quote from: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 08:46 AMYes he does.
This is a FREE country and he states his opinion that is not against the law.

Not indifferent from all the politicians spewing out their LIES.

AGAIN it is up to the PEOPLE to research and go from there.

Problem is this PUSSIFIED nation has became followers and LAZY to do that.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Danno on Jun 30, 2022, 11:13 AM
funny that we didn't have fake news until we got a fake president that was part of fake wrestling
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 12:04 PM
What's funny to me is that former President Trump claims the election was rigged just like the Democrats did when he got elected.  Yet both Democrats and Republicans act like their party has never done any wrong.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 12:38 PM
Quote from: Danno on Jun 30, 2022, 11:13 AMfunny that we didn't have fake news until we got a fake president that was part of fake wrestling

LMAO
The Fakest is ChinaBiden.
He has done NOTHING for the people.
Lined his pockets with kickbacks though..
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Blkfyre on Jun 30, 2022, 01:32 PM
Quote from: Bande on Jun 30, 2022, 12:38 PMLMAO
The Fakest is ChinaBiden.
He has done NOTHING for the people.
Lined his pockets with kickbacks though..

And Trump lined his pockets with taxpayer money by requiring all official offsite meetings/any travel destinations to be at Trump properties so he could profit from it.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 02:00 PM
You do know every president has drastically bumped up their net worth.  So saying Trump is the only one lining his pockets is an ignorant statement, though not a surprising one.  You'd have to be a really bad politician to come out poorer
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: bats on Jun 30, 2022, 04:16 PM
Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 02:00 PMYou do know every president has drastically bumped up their net worth.  So saying Trump is the only one lining his pockets is an ignorant statement, though not a surprising one.  You'd have to be a really bad politician to come out poorer
Trump is the only one I'm aware of who funneled millions of taxpayer dollars directly into his personal investments. That's a pretty big difference.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: Hobby on Jun 30, 2022, 04:43 PM
Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 02:00 PMYou do know every president has drastically bumped up their net worth.  So saying Trump is the only one lining his pockets is an ignorant statement, though not a surprising one.  You'd have to be a really bad politician to come out poorer

You say every president? Lincoln must have missed out... I don't think Kennedy faired much better!
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 10:44 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Jun 30, 2022, 04:43 PMYou say every president? Lincoln must have missed out... I don't think Kennedy faired much better!

What are you talking about?  They had more precious metals than they began with.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 10:47 PM
Quote from: bats on Jun 30, 2022, 04:16 PMTrump is the only one I'm aware of who funneled millions of taxpayer dollars directly into his personal investments. That's a pretty big difference.

So when you do it upfront and stupidly compared to sneakily it's better?  Shouldn't you be glad Trump was dumb enough to do it out in the open?  Da Fawk?  So you don't condone it because he was blatant about it but do condone it if they are sneaky about it?  I see why Democrats and Republicans are batshit crazy like they are if that's the logic they use.
Title: Re: Why Are We So Angry?
Post by: HighStepper on Jul 01, 2022, 12:25 PM
Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 30, 2022, 10:47 PMSo when you do it upfront and stupidly compared to sneakily it's better?  Shouldn't you be glad Trump was dumb enough to do it out in the open?  Da Fawk?  So you don't condone it because he was blatant about it but do condone it if they are sneaky about it?  I see why Democrats and Republicans are batshit crazy like they are if that's the logic they use.

NO, you are skipping over the part about increasing wealth LEGALLY vs. increasing wealth ILLEGALLY.