Trump taken off the Ballot in Colorado. Trump don't like it.
Trump don't like anything but himself
It's unconstitutional because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies, they will appeal the ruling to the SCOTUS where it will be overturned. How would Democrats feel if Biden wasn't allowed to be on a ballot?
https://thehill.com/homenews/4369924-trump-blocked-from-colorado-ballot-five-takeaways/
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 20, 2023, 01:26 PMIt's unconstitutional because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies, they will appeal the ruling to the SCOTUS where it will be overturned. How would Democrats feel if Biden wasn't allowed to be on a ballot?
https://thehill.com/homenews/4369924-trump-blocked-from-colorado-ballot-five-takeaways/
1. The ruling may well be overturned, but it won't be "because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies." That's not even remotely close to the issue.
2. Why on earth would Biden not be allowed on the ballot? There is no reason to keep him off the ballot, even theoretically, as is the case with Trump.
Quote from: bats on Dec 20, 2023, 02:02 PM1. The ruling may well be overturned, but it won't be "because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies." That's not even remotely close to the issue.
2. Why on earth would Biden not be allowed on the ballot? There is no reason to keep him off the ballot, even theoretically, as is the case with Trump.
1. It will be overturned because it's a stupid partisan ruling, 4-3 voted in favor of removing him, want to guess what party they belong to?
2. Biden is a crook.
This ruling is a slippery partisan slope, if a red state such as Florida or Texas blocked Biden(or any Democrat) there would be riots.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 20, 2023, 04:04 PM1. It will be overturned because it's a stupid partisan ruling, 4-3 voted in favor of removing him, want to guess what party they belong to?
2. Biden is a crook.
This ruling is a slippery partisan slope, if a red state such as Florida or Texas blocked Biden(or any Democrat) there would be riots.
1. Initially, you claimed it would be overturned as unconstitutional because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies. Now, it's just "a stupid partisan ruling." How would you know? Have you read it? (That's a rhetorical question.)
2. The Republicans have been investigating Joe for a long time and they've yet to come up with any evidence.
Quote from: bats on Dec 20, 2023, 05:40 PM1. Initially, you claimed it would be overturned as unconstitutional because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies. Now, it's just "a stupid partisan ruling." How would you know? Have you read it? (That's a rhetorical question.)
2. The Republicans have been investigating Joe for a long time and they've yet to come up with any evidence.
1. I did read it and so can you:
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/20/1220583273/trump-colorado-supreme-court-ruling
2. "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f-ck things up." - Barrack Obama
Well now California is thinking of doing it. The Lt Gov. of California is asking the Congress in Ca. to see if it can be done?
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 20, 2023, 07:58 PM1. I did read it and so can you:
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/20/1220583273/trump-colorado-supreme-court-ruling
You read it? All 206 pages, including dissenting opinions? You're a better man than I, because when I saw how lengthy it was I decided my time would be better spent reading analyses by credible lawyers.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 20, 2023, 01:26 PMIt's unconstitutional because Trump hasn't been convicted of any felonies, they will appeal the ruling to the SCOTUS where it will be overturned. How would Democrats feel if Biden wasn't allowed to be on a ballot?
Once again it's so amazing you can predict the future.
Also at the end of the day, whether courts are right or wrong (and they do make mistakes)
what they rule at a given time is what stands, like it or not.
Trump made sure to appoint over 200 judges in his favor. Trump is Russian. And now the Supreme Court is not trusted by many Americans because of Trump's maga judges. That Judge Amy is a weirdo, cult worshipper that kisses Trump's ass, EWW.
Congress haters, it's a circus, humiliating America, I did not vote for their childish games. Trump has made us all look like idiots with his mentally-ill tactics. He still thinks Obama is President. And groping Ivanka is pedo, his followers approve are numb. He never does that with Melania. This country was build for the people not some raging, con artist that has stolen millions from America.
I'm glad states are taking Hitler Trump off the ballot. Go California, more will follow. YES! Trump was never a president but a lying, deceiving demon.
I have a voice and not stopping. I see everything from the quantum field for truth. Light warrior.
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-states-wanting-kick-trump-off-ballot-1854485
Trump looks terrible, the dumb ass is doing it to himself. Trump screaming is not strong, but a spoiled bully brat his parents could not control. Good, the light warriors for truth are wearing him down. Trump can't even take care of his mental issues. Mary Trump knows he's vile. I stand with Mary Trump.
If Biden taken off the ballot, naw. Perhaps, Maryann Williamson with win. Good, she sees things different that will change everything. We need a big change. All the past ways are outdated, old thinking.
this is a nothing burger. Biden won CO. by a land slide. Now if a red state blocks him, then we have a story
Trump barred from running based on the J6 events and on his cozy relationship with the Putin regime, it would be better booting a candidate off the ballot required an actual conviction. This would prevent potential abuses, like what Republicans are threatening to do with Biden, where candidates can potentially be removed from the ballot for purely political reasons, based on nothing more than an unfounded accusation.
It's like this, boycott rioters were allowed but now being arrested for blocking traffic, business etc.
JUST POSTED: Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican representative, encouraged people to 'wear a mask' when they're in the presence of former president Donald Trump due to his apparent odor.
Donald Trump is polluting humans all around him. He is a smelly traitor. HA HA HA
Trump's magas are getting desperate.
Quote from: Danno on Dec 21, 2023, 10:28 AMthis is a nothing burger. Biden won CO. by a land slide. Now if a red state blocks him, then we have a story
You are right, Trump losing CO is nothing, it was a gimmie for Biden.
But that wasn't the point.
The point is to set precedent. To have one state do it and survive a challenge. And if it does, believe me, MANY other states will be rushing to do the same. And with a precedent behind them, there will be no challenge to them doing it.
And all of a sudden Trump is losing electors like crazy...
I'm not a huge RFK Jr fan but he made some good points:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-issues-stark-warning-colorado-court-blocks-trump-ballot-country-will-become-ungovernable
RFK Will say anything to get some press.
My laymen's guess is that the Supreme Court should uphold that a President is included in the definition of federal officer. Further they should uphold that participating in an insurrection is disqualifying. However, they will overturn the Colorado Supreme Court ruling saying that Trump did not have adequate due process to establish that he participated in an insurrection and that what happened on January 6th can be legally termed an insurrection as outlined in the Constitution.
As pointed out previously, not being on the Colorado ballot is not the end of the world for Trump. I believe Crazy Cancun Cruz beat Trump in the 2016 Republican Primary. In the General Election trump lost in Colorado and is sure to lose Colorado again in 2024.
By the way, the Colorado suit was brought about by Republicans. If Trump doesn't win in the Primary Election, that would be good for Republicans and possibly bad for Democrats. Biden can't beat Nicky Hayley in the General Election.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 21, 2023, 02:22 PMI'm not a huge RFK Jr fan but he made some good points:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-issues-stark-warning-colorado-court-blocks-trump-ballot-country-will-become-ungovernable
"Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. stresses Colorado Supreme Court's ruling on Trump deprives voters of a 'fair election'"
Hilarious. Trump has spent 3 years trying to deprive voters of a fair election...
Quote from: Blkfyre on Dec 21, 2023, 04:49 PM"Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. stresses Colorado Supreme Court's ruling on Trump deprives voters of a 'fair election'"
Hilarious. Trump has spent 3 years trying to deprive voters of a fair election...
Nothing the Demoncrats have not done in the past. 7 years.
This Supreme court ruling will not stand. Kinda hard since Trump has not been convicted nor charged with the allegations made...
People make the decisions not the Courts..
Quote from: Bande on Dec 21, 2023, 06:23 PMNothing the Demoncrats have not done in the past. 7 years.
This Supreme court ruling will not stand. Kinda hard since Trump has not been convicted nor charged with the allegations made...
People make the decisions not the Courts..
Uhm, stupid question. What is the job of the courts again?
The courts decided that W Bush was the President. Guess people forgot that.
Quote from: Bande on Dec 21, 2023, 06:23 PMNothing the Demoncrats have not done in the past. 7 years.
Not true. No Democrat or Republican president in the history of this country has obstructed the peaceful transfer of power through illegal acts to deprive voters of a fair election.
Blkfyre -did you see maga cult wearing t-shirts hang biden for treason ................? These people are mentally ill. Their faces are turning darker from evil offensive energies. They don't even know how scary they look for themselves. Maybe they avoid looking in the mirror? Probably, thinking. AND, more people are coming out how Trump smells like diapers (he was throwing his diapers at his cult waving hands). What is wrong with theses people? I know what to do when I see darkened faces with shirt. Don't engage. Waste of my words to share anything with them. They get nothing. You can't reason with stupid.
Quote from: HighStepper on Dec 22, 2023, 04:18 PMNot true. No Democrat or Republican president in the history of this country has obstructed the peaceful transfer of power through illegal acts to deprive voters of a fair election.
Allegations you state. No charges or prosecution has been done.
You are basing this off a Demoncrats perspective in which is skewed.
In which anyone in their right mind could see through all the lies, false evidence (Fake) Demoncrats have put on the table, In the last 6 years.
Quote from: Bande on Dec 27, 2023, 07:46 PMAllegations you state. No charges or prosecution has been done.
Come again?I just realized you meant to say that he hasn't been
convicted. Fair enough, because in this country, even a sociopath like Donald Trump deserves due process. And he's getting a lot more due process than most people.
Quote from: Bande on Dec 27, 2023, 07:46 PMAllegations you state. No charges or prosecution has been done.
You are basing this off a Demoncrats perspective in which is skewed.
In which anyone in their right mind could see through all the lies, false evidence (Fake) Demoncrats have put on the table, In the last 6 years.
One has to have their head buried deep in MAGA world sand of denial to not know that Trump obstructed the peaceful transfer of power.
Longtime conservative REPUBLICANS with sworn testimony under oath confirmed that Trump with his deranged lies about the election being stolen. He should have conceded the election like every other Presidential candidate that lost the election since this country was founded.
Fox admits to telling lies about the 2020 Election as part of the settlement. Fox News Pays $787.5M in Largest Ever Defamation Settlement with Dominion Voting Systems
The CO secretary of state over-ruled the state supreme court, Trump is back on the ballot for the time being.
MI supreme court also said Trump can stay on the ballot. SCOTUS needs to make a decision before 1/5/24.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-republican-party-appeal-u-s-supreme-court-trump-ballot-ban/
Now Maine banned him. Can't people just write in his name? What's the big deal other than maybe Trump's ego got hurt if his name is not printed on a ballot and there was a ruling against him?
If Trump is banned by the secretary of state then voters who write in his name the ballot will be invalidated.
I doubt the SCOTUS will make a decision let alone hear the appeal by Jan 5th.
Yes I just realized that. There is a difference between being removed from a ballot and being banned from being a candidate that can be voted for. Maine won't determine the Presidential election so is it a disaster for Trump?
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 28, 2023, 05:36 PMThe CO secretary of state over-ruled the state supreme court, Trump is back on the ballot for the time being.
MI supreme court also said Trump can stay on the ballot. SCOTUS needs to make a decision before 1/5/24.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-republican-party-appeal-u-s-supreme-court-trump-ballot-ban/
The secretary of state did not (and could not) "overrule" the state supreme court. Rather, that court's ruling provided an automatic stay until January 4th or, if there is an appeal to the US Supreme Court, until SCOTUS rules.
The Colorado GOP has appealed to the US Supreme Court, and so now we wait for their ruling.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1740543334647771268
MAJOR BREAKING: The Maine secretary of state has DISQUALIFIED Donald from the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment.
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I LOVE IT -trump has made himself TOXIC by his insurrection traitor pedo crimes, HE SMELLS like HELL .......HA HA HA
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 28, 2023, 06:46 PMIf Trump is banned by the secretary of state then voters who write in his name the ballot will be invalidated.
I doubt the SCOTUS will make a decision let alone hear the appeal by Jan 5th.
"Colorado's Secretary of State Jena Griswold said Thursday that, with the appeal filed, Trump will be included as a candidate on the state's primary ballot
unless the U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear the case or upholds the state supreme court's ruling."
So if the Court wants to kick it back down to lower courts to decide, then he'll stay off the ballot.
Quote from: dogwalker on Dec 28, 2023, 06:56 PMYes I just realized that. There is a difference between being removed from a ballot and being banned from being a candidate that can be voted for. Maine won't determine the Presidential election so is it a disaster for Trump?
Precedent. Courts live and die by it. If the decision isn't struck down then other states who want to do it will point to it and say "See, the precedent of doing so is valid and legal" which makes it harder for those opposing it to say it's not legal to do so, which is a large part of Trump's side of the argument.
Quote from: Blkfyre on Dec 29, 2023, 12:18 PM"Colorado's Secretary of State Jena Griswold said Thursday that, with the appeal filed, Trump will be included as a candidate on the state's primary ballot unless the U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear the case or upholds the state supreme court's ruling."
So if the Court wants to kick it back down to lower courts to decide, then he'll stay off the ballot.
That's what I said that in my second post, why do you and bats have to repeat everything I say?
Just to be clear:
THE SCOTUS NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE 1/5/24 OTHERWISE TRUMP WON'T BE ON THE BALLOT IN THOSE STATES.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 29, 2023, 01:34 PMJust to be clear: THE SCOTUS NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE 1/5/24 OTHERWISE TRUMP WON'T BE ON THE BALLOT IN THOSE STATES.
I'm going from memory here. As I understand it The Colorado Supreme court stayed the implementation of their ruling to kick Trump off the ballot until 1/4/2024
OR until Trump filed an appeal,
OR SCOTUS refused to take the case or made a decision that overturned Colorado Court.
So, the act of Trump filing an appeal effectively results in Trump being on the Colorado ballot.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 29, 2023, 01:34 PMThat's what I said that in my second post, why do you and bats have to repeat everything I say?
Just to be clear: THE SCOTUS NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE 1/5/24 OTHERWISE TRUMP WON'T BE ON THE BALLOT IN THOSE STATES.
I didn't repeat what you said. I corrected one of your errors.
Now, HighStepper has corrected the other one (the one repeated by Blkfyre).
I refuse to argue. What I see is a lot of arguing over things, I have no control over. I see big, money arguing men like never before fighting on the net. This whole thing with Trump, the mouthpiece for hate, he loves to see people fight. Is this a big distraction for what is really already in this world? Let's bring it on the Satanic worship right in the open, the lost souls, the sneaky tricksters who love to see us fight. America needs another shock of truth that we are the biggest criminals for human trafficking 2023.
I watched "Sound of Freedom". Clients, I know can't even watch it. It makes them cry, so horrid. Thank you Trump, the leader of Pedos that stinks. Drugged up Trump, his crimes are smelly and here. America is numb, they can't face the truth. We have been so spoiled with constitution freedoms that too many have forgotten a blessing. So stay numb and keep the suffering a-going.
SCOTUS agreed to hear oral arguments on Feb 8th.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-supreme-court-trump-14th-amendment-ballot-disqualification/story?id=106112607
My SCROTUM agreed to have oral augmentation on Feb 7th.
Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 20, 2023, 04:04 PM1. It will be overturned because it's a stupid partisan ruling, 4-3 voted in favor of removing him, want to guess what party they belong to?
2. Biden is a crook.
This ruling is a slippery partisan slope, if a red state such as Florida or Texas blocked Biden(or any Democrat) there would be riots.
I don't know if the Supreme Court will over rule Colorado. Supreme Court can't rule on if Trump committed insurrection or rebellion. My guess is they will say it is up to the state.
Quote from: Hobby on Jan 06, 2024, 12:23 AMSupreme Court can't rule on if Trump committed insurrection or rebellion.
Who's gonna stop 'em? lol
Last I looked Biden didn't lead an insurrection
1st day of hearing before the Supreme Court.
A lifelong Republican is the name on the case that could remove Trump from the ballot. Norma Anderson — the Anderson in the Trump v. Anderson case that the Supreme Court will hear on Thursday — is taking on Trump over whether he is eligible to serve as president after his role in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.
Anderson was a Republican long before Trump. She recently reminisced to the Colorado Sun about being "on the Dewey side" in childhood games where the teams were FDR vs. Dewey. She served as a state lawmaker for nearly two decades, eventually rising to be majority leader in both chambers before leaving office in 2006. Link (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/07/anderson-trump-supreme-court-ballot-00139991)
QuoteWow RL you were right and we were wrong, you correctly predicted the SCOTUS decision.
I know, thank you.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-trump-cannot-kicked-colorado-ballot-rcna132291
so much for following the Constitution.
Quote from: Danno on Mar 04, 2024, 09:29 AMso much for following the Constitution.
They are following the Constitution in which the People make the decision, not a individual state interfering with a Federal Election.
Unanimous decision 9 to 0. Imagine that..
Now it is up to the PEOPLE...
no, the ruling was that it's up to congress to decide. Which is stupid, The house has already impeached him for insurrection, now the senate is Dem controlled. get your popcorn. It's happening right now
Quote from: Bande on Mar 04, 2024, 06:15 PMThey are following the Constitution in which the People make the decision, not a individual state interfering with a Federal Election.
Unanimous decision 9 to 0. Imagine that..
Now it is up to the PEOPLE...
Trump will tell you it's only up to the people if he wins. If he loses, he'll lie, claim it was rigged, and try to overturn the results. And most of his followers will go along.
Quote from: Bande on Mar 04, 2024, 06:15 PMThey are following the Constitution in which the People make the decision, not a individual state interfering with a Federal Election.
Unanimous decision 9 to 0. Imagine that..
Now it is up to the PEOPLE...
This case raises the question whether the States, in addition to Congress, may also enforce Section 3. We conclude that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office. But States have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal offices, especially the Presidency. https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=17654
It should be noted that The Supreme Court did NOT honor Trump's request to find that he was not an insurrectionist.
Lower courts have made findings that Trump engaged in insurrection.
Quote from: Danno on Mar 04, 2024, 07:58 PMno, the ruling was that it's up to congress to decide. Which is stupid, The house has already impeached him for insurrection, now the senate is Dem controlled. get your popcorn. It's happening right now
Quote from: HighStepper on Mar 05, 2024, 12:45 AMIt should be noted that The Supreme Court did NOT honor Trump's request to find that he was not an insurrectionist.
Lower courts have made findings that Trump engaged in insurrection.
Yet he has yet to be charged nor convicted.
All yeterick fro Demoncrats...
Quote from: Bande on Mar 05, 2024, 07:57 PMYet he has yet to be charged nor convicted.
All yeterick fro Demoncrats...
Trump has been found guilty in civil courts which will cost him and his donors about a half billion dollars.
As to criminal charges, it's NOT rhetoric from Democrats, but rather grand juries made up of American citizens based on the testimony of mostly Republicans.
Trump has been criminally indicted in four separate criminal cases, with the following two being most relevant to the topic of his trying to steal the election by overturning the will of the voters.
Criminal Indictment Filed Fulton County Superior Court (https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=14627)
Washington Grand Jury Indictment of Trump (https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=14429)
His lawyers have been very effective in trial delay tactics, so probably no convictions before the 2024 election.