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Title: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 06, 2025, 08:15 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-king-judge-reinstating-fired-federal-labor-board/story?id=119533138

U.S District Judge Beryl Howell reinstated Gwynne Wilcox to the National Labor Relations Board after Trump removed her without providing any cause, issuing an opinion that suggests the case could be a broader test of the "unitary executive theory."

"An American President is not a king -- not even an 'elected' one -- and his power to remove federal officers and honest civil servants like plaintiff is not absolute," Howell wrote.

https://www.afge.org/article/judge-sides-with-afge-saying-trumps-mass-firings-of-probationary-employees-illegal/

Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California said OPM's Jan. 20 memo and Feb. 14 internal email are "illegal" and "should be stopped, rescinded."

The judge said when federal agencies fire employees for no reason, "that's just not right in our country," adding that we can't "run our agencies with lies."

"The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever under any statute in the history of the universe to hire and fire employees at another agency," he stated.


Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 06, 2025, 09:27 PM
https://apnews.com/article/usaid-trump-foreign-aid-funding-freeze-02e8ed553e55c79c43fe8811de952d02

 A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Trump administration to speed up its payment on some of nearly $2 billion in debts to partners of the U.S. Agency for International Development and the State Department, giving it a Monday deadline to repay the nonprofit groups and businesses in a lawsuit over the administration's abrupt shutdown of foreign assistance funding.

U.S. District Judge Amir Ali described the partial payment as a "concrete" first step he wanted to see from the administration, which is fighting multiple lawsuits seeking to roll back the administration's dismantling of USAID and a six-week freeze on USAID funding, which has forced U.S.-funded organizations to halt aid and development work around the world and lay off workers.

"Trump is not a king"
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 06, 2025, 09:50 PM
Trump has never said he is a king!  So you are not wanting to cut spending or delete federal jobs no longer needed that will be replaced by AI. Trump will appeal decisions that rule against him and will wind up in SCOTUS.  When SCOTUS rules I will accept it.

Tell me how do feel about Trump making Mexican Drug Lords terrorist so we can put a stop to them profiting off the lives of Americans?  Mexico arrested and is sending 29 drug lords to the United States.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 06, 2025, 10:24 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 06, 2025, 09:50 PMTrump has never said he is a king!  So you are not wanting to cut spending or delete federal jobs no longer needed that will be replaced by AI. Trump will appeal decisions that rule against him and will wind up in SCOTUS.  When SCOTUS rules I will accept it.

Tell me how do feel about Trump making Mexican Drug Lords terrorist so we can put a stop to them profiting off the lives of Americans?  Mexico arrested and is sending 29 drug lords to the United States.

Why are you asking me? A FEDERAL JUDGE is the one who said Trump is not a king

What do Mexican Drug Lords have to do with Trump/Elon cutting jobs **illegally**?

Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 06, 2025, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 06, 2025, 10:24 PMWhy are you asking me? A FEDERAL JUDGE is the one who said Trump is not a king

What do Mexican Drug Lords have to do with Trump/Elon cutting jobs **illegally**?



Trump isn't cutting jobs illegally.  How many air traffic controllers did Reagan fire after he ordered them back to work and they refused?  Jobs are being eliminated so those holding those jobs will no longer have a job.  Apparently you don't care if the government waste money. 
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 01:24 AM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 06, 2025, 11:54 PMTrump isn't cutting jobs illegally.  How many air traffic controllers did Reagan fire after he ordered them back to work and they refused?  Jobs are being eliminated so those holding those jobs will no longer have a job.  Apparently you don't care if the government waste money. 

I love that if someone disagrees at all with Trump, well, you do not care about the government wasting money! That can be the ONLY REASON why you are disagreeing.

Why is that? Is Trump perfect? Can he not make a mistake? And, from the FEDERAL JUDGE'S ruling, he made a MISTAKE in this case cutting off the funding when he did not have a right to do so, thus his LEGAL ORDER to clear up the debt *now*.

This is not a case of not caring about waste, it's a case about Trump and his hired thug Elon overreaching the constitutional powers that are granted to the President and having their hand slapped and told to fix what they broke.

THIS is Trump cutting jobs illegally and being called on it: https://www.afge.org/article/judge-sides-with-afge-saying-trumps-mass-firings-of-probationary-employees-illegal/

Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California said OPM's Jan. 20 memo and Feb. 14 internal email are "illegal" and "should be stopped, rescinded."

The judge said when federal agencies fire employees for no reason, "that's just not right in our country," adding that we can't "run our agencies with lies."

"The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever under any statute in the history of the universe to hire and fire employees at another agency," he stated.

Again, this is not me saying it's illegal, it's a person who knows better than the both of us, a FEDERAL JUDGE.

And again, What do Mexican Drug Lords have to do with Trump/Elon cutting jobs **illegally**/Trump being made to make the payments he didn't have the authority to stop?
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 10:02 AM
biggest waste ever, is Trump spending $200 million and counting, on golf. Over 30 mill in 6 weeks. Letting Musk use air force one to fly around at $200,000/hr, because he's afraid.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 07, 2025, 04:16 PM
White House Shares Photo of Donald Trump Dressed as a King. Link (https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-donald-trump-king-time-2033574)



Trump King.jpg
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: bats on Mar 07, 2025, 04:35 PM
On his Truth Social account last month, Trump also posted this after he moved to end NYC's congestion pricing model:
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Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Bande on Mar 07, 2025, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 01:24 AMI love that if someone disagrees at all with Trump, well, you do not care about the government wasting money! That can be the ONLY REASON why you are disagreeing.

Why is that? Is Trump perfect? Can he not make a mistake? And, from the FEDERAL JUDGE'S ruling, he made a MISTAKE in this case cutting off the funding when he did not have a right to do so, thus his LEGAL ORDER to clear up the debt *now*.

This is not a case of not caring about waste, it's a case about Trump and his hired thug Elon overreaching the constitutional powers that are granted to the President and having their hand slapped and told to fix what they broke.

THIS is Trump cutting jobs illegally and being called on it: https://www.afge.org/article/judge-sides-with-afge-saying-trumps-mass-firings-of-probationary-employees-illegal/

Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California said OPM's Jan. 20 memo and Feb. 14 internal email are "illegal" and "should be stopped, rescinded."

The judge said when federal agencies fire employees for no reason, "that's just not right in our country," adding that we can't "run our agencies with lies."

"The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever under any statute in the history of the universe to hire and fire employees at another agency," he stated.

Again, this is not me saying it's illegal, it's a person who knows better than the both of us, a FEDERAL JUDGE.

And again, What do Mexican Drug Lords have to do with Trump/Elon cutting jobs **illegally**/Trump being made to make the payments he didn't have the authority to stop?
Judge ruled Trump could not stop funds for services rendered.
Very simple, stop all services and then no more payments for a useless cause.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 05:16 PM
Quote from: Bande on Mar 07, 2025, 05:09 PMJudge ruled Trump could not stop funds for services rendered.
Very simple, stop all services and then no more payments for a useless cause.


Democrats here and across the country are whining because they lost congress, lost the presidency so all their promises of handing out free money they made in the past all goes up in smoke. 
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:49 PM
Quote from: Bande on Mar 07, 2025, 05:09 PMJudge ruled Trump could not stop funds for services rendered.
Very simple, stop all services and then no more payments for a useless cause.


Not sure why you had to restate it, but yes, TRUMP did not have the authority to stop the payments, which *everybody* told him, yet he said he had the right.

FAFO happened and now he's paying.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 08, 2025, 12:02 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 05:16 PMDemocrats here and across the country are whining because they lost congress, lost the presidency so all their promises of handing out free money they made in the past all goes up in smoke. 
That claim reflects partisan rhetoric rather than an objective analysis. Both parties have implemented policies involving financial aid or subsidies. Oversimplifying nuanced issues into sound bites or partisan jabs is of no value to a meaningful discussion.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 08, 2025, 08:01 PM
YET
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 09, 2025, 12:01 PM
https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/03/major-network-responds-defiantly-to-trumps-lawsuit-bring-it-on.html

""This lawsuit is an affront to the First Amendment and is without basis in law or fact. Plaintiffs President Donald J. Trump and Representative Ronny Jackson, public officials at the highest ranks of our government, seek to punish a news organization for constitutionally protected editorial judgments they do not like," the attorneys wrote."
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 09, 2025, 12:26 PM
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Lost in the noise of the past two weeks, not many people noticed that Trump took some unprecedented steps to nullify the one branch of Government he doesn't completely control - the judiciary.

Firstly, he fired any Justice Department prosecutors who participated in investigations against him, and removed the security clearances of any former intelligence officials who have criticised him publicly, including former President Biden.

He signed an executive order removing the security clearances and banning from federal buildings for any lawyer that was found to have assisted in impeachment investigations against him. Even those acting pro-bono.
He signed an executive order banning not-for profit workers from a federal loan forgiveness scheme if they were deemed to have engaged in "improper" activities. This would likely include any not-for profits that challenge his policies in court.

He then signed an executive order requiring any plaintiff wishing to challenge the legality of Trump's actions in court to provide, up front, a bond covering the totality of the Government's legal costs, to be forfeited in full if the case fails.

These are all clearly designed to deter anyone from using the courts to restrain him, and they will work.
Almost no one will have the money available to provide the necessary bond to even get their day in court, and even if they did... how many lawyers would want to take that job?

It should be noted that this is exactly how Putin took control of Russia. Make resistance too costly. Intimidate the public into apathy.

Trump has been President for 47 days.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 09, 2025, 01:26 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 09, 2025, 12:26 PMHe then signed an executive order requiring any plaintiff wishing to challenge the legality of Trump's actions in court to provide, up front, a bond covering the totality of the Government's legal costs, to be forfeited in full if the case fails.
Requiring the Department of Justice to demand monetary bonds to deter what the administration calls "frivolous litigation" and to recoup costs if the government ultimately prevails on appeal.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 10, 2025, 10:19 AM
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https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8

In a message shared on X Sunday evening, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration "will be revoking the visas and/or green cards of Hamas supporters in America so they can be deported."

The Department of Homeland Security can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for a broad range of alleged criminal activity, including supporting a terror group. But the detention of a legal permanent resident who has not been charged with a crime marked an extraordinary move with an uncertain legal foundation, according to immigration experts.

"This has the appearance of a retaliatory action against someone who expressed an opinion the Trump administration didn't like," said Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York.

As ICE agents arrived at Khalil's Manhattan residence Saturday night, they also threatened to arrest Khalil's wife, an American citizen who is eight months pregnant, Greer said.

But yeah, they are ONLY going after illegals, and your 1st Amendment rights are intact...
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 10:59 AM
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https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8

In a message shared on X Sunday evening, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration "will be revoking the visas and/or green cards of Hamas supporters in America so they can be deported."

The Department of Homeland Security can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for a broad range of alleged criminal activity, including supporting a terror group. But the detention of a legal permanent resident who has not been charged with a crime marked an extraordinary move with an uncertain legal foundation, according to immigration experts.

"This has the appearance of a retaliatory action against someone who expressed an opinion the Trump administration didn't like," said Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York.

As ICE agents arrived at Khalil's Manhattan residence Saturday night, they also threatened to arrest Khalil's wife, an American citizen who is eight months pregnant, Greer said.

But yeah, they are ONLY going after illegals, and your 1st Amendment rights are intact...

If they are deporting those here on visa or green card and supporting Hamas then they should be deported immediately! Foreigners visiting or going to school here should have no freedom of speech to spout off their political views!
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 10, 2025, 01:44 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 10:59 AM...Foreigners visiting or going to school here should have no freedom of speech to spout off their political views!
The First Amendment guarantees the right to free speech to everyone within the U.S., including foreign citizens.


The university's allegations against Khalil focused on his involvement in the Columbia University Apartheid Divest group. He faced sanctions for potentially helping to organize an "unauthorized marching event" in which participants glorified Hamas' Oct. 7, 2023, attack and playing a "substantial role" in the circulation of social media posts criticizing Zionism, among other acts of alleged discrimination.

Khalil served as a negotiator for students as they bargained with university officials over an end to the tent encampment erected on campus last spring.
These tent encampments should have never been allowed. This should have been immediately taken down by the authorities. These encampments were strategically planned and well financed. Who was behind this?

Khalil's arrest was directly connected to Khalil's role in the protests, alleging he "led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization."
Protesting the universities investment activites that support Israel's bombing in one thing. Prasing support for Hamas is another thing.

What happened was way beyond peaceful protest. I could generously call it "civil disobedience." A key part of engaging in civil disobedience for your cause is to accept the consequences of your disobedience. That is what gives your cause credibility.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 02:20 PM
Quote from: HighStepper on Mar 10, 2025, 01:44 PMThe First Amendment guarantees the right to free speech to everyone within the U.S., including foreign citizens.


The university's allegations against Khalil focused on his involvement in the Columbia University Apartheid Divest group. He faced sanctions for potentially helping to organize an "unauthorized marching event" in which participants glorified Hamas' Oct. 7, 2023, attack and playing a "substantial role" in the circulation of social media posts criticizing Zionism, among other acts of alleged discrimination.

Khalil served as a negotiator for students as they bargained with university officials over an end to the tent encampment erected on campus last spring.
These tent encampments should have never been allowed. This should have been immediately taken down by the authorities. These encampments were strategically planned and well financed. Who was behind this?

Khalil's arrest was directly connected to Khalil's role in the protests, alleging he "led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization."
Protesting the universities investment activites that support Israel's bombing in one thing. Prasing support for Hamas is another thing.

What happened was way beyond peaceful protest. I could generously call it "civil disobedience." A key part of engaging in civil disobedience for your cause is to accept the consequences of your disobedience. That is what gives your cause credibility.


There should be no negotiations with students period.  They came here to learn not disrupt or ctitize our government.  They can not vote here. If they are causing disruptions then they are deported...simple as that!
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 10, 2025, 02:41 PM
There needs to be a legal process.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Danno on Mar 10, 2025, 03:28 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 10:59 AMIf they are deporting those here on visa or green card and supporting Hamas then they should be deported immediately! Foreigners visiting or going to school here should have no freedom of speech to spout off their political views!

Doing stuff like this used as an ISIS recruiting tool. young people see their parents being treated this way.

ICE has been pulling people off roofs and hauling them off, only to let them go when they are found to be here legally. disrupting construction project just because the color of their skin.
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 10, 2025, 09:28 PM
https://time.com/7266334/us-human-rights-watchlist-civil-liberties/

"The move comes amid President Donald Trump's "assault on democratic norms and global cooperation," said CIVICUS—a global alliance and network of civil society groups, including Amnesty International, that advocates for greater citizen action in areas where civil liberties are limited—in a press release. The organization also cited the Administration's cut of more than 90% of its foreign aid contracts and its crackdown on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI)—which Trump called "illegal and immoral discrimination programs"—through executive action.

"The Trump Administration seems hellbent on dismantling the system of checks and balances which are the pillars of a democratic society," said Mandeep Tiwana, Interim Co-Secretary General of CIVICUS, in a press release. "Restrictive Executive Orders, unjustifiable institutional cutbacks, and intimidation tactics through threatening pronouncements by senior officials in the Administration are creating an atmosphere to chill democratic dissent, a cherished American ideal."

Other countries on the watchlist include the Democratic Republic of Congo, Italy, Pakistan, and Serbia."
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 10, 2025, 10:29 PM
he's close
Title: Re: "Trump is not a king"
Post by: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 11:43 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 09, 2025, 12:01 PMhttps://www.nj.com/politics/2025/03/major-network-responds-defiantly-to-trumps-lawsuit-bring-it-on.html

""This lawsuit is an affront to the First Amendment and is without basis in law or fact. Plaintiffs President Donald J. Trump and Representative Ronny Jackson, public officials at the highest ranks of our government, seek to punish a news organization for constitutionally protected editorial judgments they do not like," the attorneys wrote."

Trump won't win the suit because he suffered no damages because he won the election.  Yes CBS edited the interview to fit the time available but also wanted Harris to sound better.  I voted for Harris she lost Trump won and is my president now.