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Title: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:36 AM
Russia overnight did a massive bombing on Ukraine last night.  Trump now sees Putin is not wanting to end the war so Trump said he will imposed massive sanctions on Russia. If Trump was in Putin's pocket as the looney left wants the world to believe Trump wouldn't be making threats against Putin.  With the US and Trump backing Ukraine Russia will lose the war and go broke.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 09:57 AM
ROTFLMAO,  then why would he deport 250,000 Ukrainians here Legally? Open your eyes.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 10:06 AM
The great deportation isn't happening. Biden deported twice as many per month.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 10:13 AM
Quote from: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 09:57 AMROTFLMAO,  then why would he deport 250,000 Ukrainians here Legally? Open your eyes.

Trump has not deported Ukrainians, not as of yet anyway.  Trump hasn't made a decision.  I hope he doesn't deported them because they have no home to return to.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 10:52 AM
he'll probably load them on a plane and fly them to Putin
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 10:59 AM
They have decided to not spend money deporting illegals. Like Biden did. More money for the rich. In fact Trump is bringing in Rapist from other countries. See Andrew Tate. probably getting young girls for the King and his minions.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 10:59 AMThey have decided to not spend money deporting illegals. Like Biden did. More money for the rich. In fact Trump is bringing in Rapist from other countries. See Andrew Tate. probably getting young girls for the King and his minions.

All you got is bullshit!
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:35 AM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:36 AMRussia overnight did a massive bombing on Ukraine last night.  Trump now sees Putin is not wanting to end the war so Trump said he will imposed massive sanctions on Russia. If Trump was in Putin's pocket as the looney left wants the world to believe Trump wouldn't be making threats against Putin.  With the US and Trump backing Ukraine Russia will lose the war and go broke.

Oh? And how much were the sanctions that he imposed? He says he will "talk at length". Kinda sounds like he wants to make noise about sanctions because the information about Trump taking NO responsibility for providing Putin with the opportunity to make that bombing by not providing Ukraine with the intel it was happening got bad optics and he's doing damage control without ACTUALLY doing anything...
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:50 AM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:35 AMOh? And how much were the sanctions that he imposed? He says he will "talk at length". Kinda sounds like he wants to make noise about sanctions because the information about Trump taking NO responsibility for providing Putin with the opportunity to make that bombing by not providing Ukraine with the intel it was happening got bad optics and he's doing damage control without ACTUALLY doing anything...


Stop with the bullshit. 
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 03:13 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:05 AMAll you got is bullshit!
ok prove me wrong. you never have any facts, just a flip flopper
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 03:19 PM
when was last time you saw or heard about how the deportation's are going? you don't because it isn't happening, cost to much, rather give all money to the rich.

Buying crypto with our money is fucked up. Stevie Wonder can see that.

The rich getting richer this week with all the flip flopping on the Tariffs, market going up and down. Lets look at the portfolio of Trumps buddies.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 03:21 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:50 AMStop with the bullshit. 

you need to learn how to find facts.
Trump's decision to stop intelligence sharing will cost lives, Ukrainians say
The White House is pausing not only shipments of military equipment to the war-torn country, but also intelligence Kyiv uses to stop strikes on civilians.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 07, 2025, 03:27 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:05 AMAll you got is bullshit!
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o
you just hate this because you are the mark. next week it will be ss and Medicare getting axed.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 03:42 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:50 AMStop with the bullshit. 

How is it any more bullshit than what you think of his motivations? Like you, I'm stating my opinion, right?
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: bats on Mar 07, 2025, 04:26 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:36 AMRussia overnight did a massive bombing on Ukraine last night.  Trump now sees Putin is not wanting to end the war so Trump said he will imposed massive sanctions on Russia. If Trump was in Putin's pocket as the looney left wants the world to believe Trump wouldn't be making threats against Putin.  With the US and Trump backing Ukraine Russia will lose the war and go broke.
Trump didn't say he "will" impose sanctions on Russia. He said he's "strongly considering" it.

More on this from the WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/trump-threatens-to-hit-russia-with-sanctions-6534bef8?mod=hp_lead_pos2):

Asked if he thought Russian President Vladimir Putin was striking Ukraine in an effort to take advantage of the intelligence-sharing pause, Trump said: "I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do. I think he wants to get it stopped and settled."

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump added of Putin: "I think he's hitting them harder than he's been hitting them. And I think probably anybody in that position would be doing that right now."

Trump said he believed Putin wanted to end the war. "I'm finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine, and they don't have the cards."

These comments from a U.S. president would be totally unbelievable if they hadn't come from the mouth of Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 07, 2025, 05:25 PM
While sanctions have put pressure on Russia, they have not brought an end the war or significantly altered Russia's aggression toward Ukraine. So, please tell us just how Putin made a mistake.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:44 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 03:42 PMHow is it any more bullshit than what you think of his motivations? Like you, I'm stating my opinion, right?

No you state and post propaganda far left bullshit!
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:48 PM
Quote from: HighStepper on Mar 07, 2025, 05:25 PMWhile sanctions have put pressure on Russia, they have not brought an end the war or significantly altered Russia's aggression toward Ukraine. So, please tell us just how Putin made a mistake.

Putin pist off Trump. Trump wants a cease fire and end the killing.  If Trump has to put boots on the ground and sends in our fighter jets and bombers to end the war and killing Trump will do it. 
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:40 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:44 PMNo you state and post propaganda far left bullshit!

Almost everything except my opinion is backed up with facts/links/pics/used to be walls of text until you forbade that, so no, it's not propoganda
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:51 PM
Quote from: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:40 PMAlmost everything except my opinion is backed up with facts/links/pics/used to be walls of text until you forbade that, so no, it's not propoganda

Oh bullshit, you post propaganda all the time. When I ask you for your opinion you reply you not a politician... I don't have to like Trump to support closing and sealing our southern border. I think it's about time drug lords and traffickers are declared terrorist.  I like they are auditing the books and identifying fraud and waste.  I like that Trump is talking to Putin to stop the killing in Ukraine.  Something is seriously wrong with a person who doesn't care about these issues.

Many NATO countries can afford free health care because they don't invest money into their military.  Canada for example has free health care and not much of a strong military. Canada depends on the US for protection costing Canada nothing.  We send billions of money to foreign countries to help them survive while ignoring the needs of our people.  Trump is working to put a stop to this.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 07, 2025, 11:58 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:51 PMOh bullshit, you post propaganda all the time. When I ask you for your opinion, you reply you're not a politician... I don't have to like Trump to support closing and sealing our southern border. I think it's about time drug lords and traffickers are declared terrorists.  I like that they are auditing the books and identifying fraud and waste.  I like that Trump is talking to Putin to stop the killing in Ukraine.  Something is seriously wrong with a person who doesn't care about these issues. 

So you have a problem when I don't give my opinion. You have a problem when I do give my opinion. You have a problem with the facts that I give as they just can NOT be facts, they HAVE to be propaganda.

I talk about the issues all the time. What I will not do is give my opinion on something to fix an issue. Whether YOU believe that your opinion is sufficient to do so, I do not as I have stated over, and over, and over again. I am not a politician, I do not know all of the ways things a real politician can use to fix things and rather than speak from ignorance or worse yet, be caught in an ignorance "GOTCHA! That's not how that works!" I just don't speak on things I do not know.

Most would take that as someone who isn't being a know-it-all or only regurgitating partisan bullshit they heard in some partisan echo-chamber, but YMMV...
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 08, 2025, 12:43 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 11:51 PMMany NATO countries can afford free health care because they don't invest money into their military.  Canada for example has free health care and not much of a strong military. Canada depends on the US for protection costing Canada nothing.  We send billions of money to foreign countries to help them survive while ignoring the needs of our people.  Trump is working to put a stop to this.
Your assertion assumes there would be a correlation between military strength and healthcare quality.
Countries with the best healthcare are:
1.    Taiwan
2.    South Korea
3.    Australia
4.    Canada
5.    Sweden
6.    Ireland
7.    Netherlands
8.    Germany
9.    Norway
10.    Israel
Health Care Index 2024 (https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%202024%20edition,readiness%20to%20address%20health%20crises.)
The countries with the strongest military are:
United States
Russia
China
India
Japan
South Korea
France

So, would increased military strength by NATO countries come as the expense of reduced healthcare? The other side of that question would less NATO expenses by the U.S. lead to better health care for American citizens?
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: dogwalker on Mar 08, 2025, 08:01 PM
as some claim.....but how can they judge......some here can predict the future, then judge the past.....give me a break.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 09, 2025, 07:41 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 07, 2025, 09:48 PMPutin pist off Trump. Trump wants a cease fire and end the killing.  If Trump has to put boots on the ground and sends in our fighter jets and bombers to end the war and killing Trump will do it. 

if this true, why did Trump stop sharing intelligent with Ukraine and the next day Putin ramped up the bombing. Think!
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 09, 2025, 07:46 PM
Trump treats Zelenskyy, a Jew, bad in the white house. Then he pulls $400 million from Columbia for treating Jews bad without any proof. Can't make this shit up. Sociopath you think?
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 10, 2025, 05:04 PM
https://youtu.be/_z09pdlr5ZQ?si=MBpBpskGQSrYiIVC
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: HighStepper on Mar 10, 2025, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Danno on Mar 10, 2025, 05:04 PMhttps://youtu.be/_z09pdlr5ZQ?si=MBpBpskGQSrYiIVC
REPUBLICAN Lawmaker STEPS IN As Musk ATTACKS Foreign LEADER
5:51 minute video
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 10, 2025, 06:54 PM
Trump is talking about using the Insurrection Act starting on 4/20. Guess he doesn't know that is the Hippie Lettuce Day.
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 08:25 PM
I guess the powers are going to meet tomorrow to discuss a cease fire. I sure hope the meeting turns out well.  If I was Zelensky and had to give up some land to stop the killing I would say where do I sign.  Then I would quietly as Europe for more military equipment drones bomb munitions and perhaps invite them to hold military training exercises in the Ukraine to be available if Putin starts more shit.  I probably invite the US to build a military base in Ukraine to help secure the country and train Ukrainians to be the best pilots in Europe.

Once the war ends Ukraine will start rebuilding.  Maybe they can open trade with Russia and Russia may agree to help rebuild.  If Ukraine some day becomes strong and powerful they can reclaim what Russia took. 
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Blkfyre on Mar 10, 2025, 08:31 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 08:25 PMI guess the powers are going to meet tomorrow to discuss a cease fire. I sure hope the meeting turns out well.  If I was Zelensky and had to give up some land to stop the killing I would say where do I sign.  Then I would quietly as Europe for more military equipment drones bomb munitions and perhaps invite them to hold military training exercises in the Ukraine to be available if Putin starts more shit.  I probably invite the US to build a military base in Ukraine to help secure the country and train Ukrainians to be the best pilots in Europe.

Once the war ends Ukraine will start rebuilding.  Maybe they can open trade with Russia and Russia may agree to help rebuild.  If Ukraine some day becomes strong and powerful they can reclaim what Russia took. 


Or, in a decade or so, Russia will invade them for the THIRD time, because that's what Russia does...
Title: Re: Putin Makes Huge Mistake
Post by: Danno on Mar 10, 2025, 10:59 PM
Quote from: Hobby on Mar 10, 2025, 08:25 PMI guess the powers are going to meet tomorrow to discuss a cease fire. I sure hope the meeting turns out well.  If I was Zelensky and had to give up some land to stop the killing I would say where do I sign.  Then I would quietly as Europe for more military equipment drones bomb munitions and perhaps invite them to hold military training exercises in the Ukraine to be available if Putin starts more shit.  I probably invite the US to build a military base in Ukraine to help secure the country and train Ukrainians to be the best pilots in Europe.

Once the war ends Ukraine will start rebuilding.  Maybe they can open trade with Russia and Russia may agree to help rebuild.  If Ukraine some day becomes strong and powerful they can reclaim what Russia took. 


Zelensky wasn't invited. Waste of time.