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Two ballets for Speaker of the House, McCarthy still fails. Interestingly Democrat Jeffries keeps  getting more votes than McCarthy. Neither got the 218 votes required. Third vote getting underway.

The last time a speaker vote went to multiple ballots was in 1923. Republicans held the majority.

The House Republicans can't get their shit together, I wish Darryl Issa was speaker but that's not going to happen.

House stands adjourn until tomorrow.
No Speaker today.
Grab your popcorn, see what happens tomorrow.

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I think it's hilarious when arrogant pricks get taken down a notch.  Now McCarthy is going to have to kiss ass to become Speaker instead of thinking he automatically deserves it.

Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 03, 2023, 04:45 PMI think it's hilarious when arrogant pricks get taken down a notch.  Now McCarthy is going to have to kiss ass to become Speaker instead of thinking he automatically deserves it.

Yes agree with you. The arrogant prick moved his stuff into the Speakers office yesterday.

Problem is McCarthy has been "kissing ass" all along.
Gaetz, in nominating Jordan before the second round of voting, stood right in front of McCarthy and accused him of having
"sold shares of himself for more than a decade to get it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6PvolmoC0

Well now the Republicans get a taste of what it was like when 1 or 2 Democrats held the Senate hostage in recent years.  The  Republicans got all excited when they won the House......but apparently they didn't (if they do not have enough votes to pass their legislation).  Talk about gridlock.....even within the Republican's own party!

Added note...yeh McCarthy was even signing some recent letters with something like "Speaker Designate."  Hilarious.  Don't count them chickens before they hatch.

I watched some C-SPAN tonight.  The Democrats nominated Hakeem Jeffries, their minority leader, for House Speaker.  Was that just procedural or is it actually possible that a Democrat could be House Speaker even if by numbers Republicans are in the majority (although only by 9 of 435 seats).

They could change the House rules to a plurality of the vote would be Speaker. Hakeem Jeffries got the most votes and would be elected Speaker. However, it will take 218 votes to change the rule. So, no Jeffries will not be elected Speaker.

Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 03, 2023, 10:26 PMI watched some C-SPAN tonight.  The Democrats nominated Hakeem Jeffries, their minority leader, for House Speaker.  Was that just procedural or is it actually possible that a Democrat could be House Speaker even if by numbers Republicans are in the majority (although only by 9 of 435 seats).

The Democrats are presenting a united front so as to be in complete and total contrast to the Republicans, who, though they have the majority, are nevertheless too dysfunctional to govern, even to the point of being unable to elect a leader.

Both parties are reflective of their constituents. The Democrats want to govern, while the Republicans just want power so they can continue to destroy our democratic institutions. It's the Trump Effect, which is a reflection of their dipshit voters.

Just another opportunistic slam on the Republicans instead of answering my question but I often go off topic too.

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Quote from: dogwalker on Jan 04, 2023, 08:19 AMI did some research.  Yes Jeffries could be elected Speaker of the House in theory.  Just needs the 218 votes from other members.  Possible in theory.  Near zero chance in practice since probably not even one Republican would vote for him.  In fact one does not even need to be a member of Congress to be Speaker!  I could be Speaker IF I got 218 votes from current House members....lol.  Trump could become Speaker.

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With respect to working with the 20 Republican hold outs, A Fox News commentator said this like trying to do hostage negotiation when the main demand is kill the hostage. 

They do not trust McCarthy. They saw his sleaziness for 14 years. Before the midterm elections McCarthy was expected the big red wave, so he ignored working with them as he felt he didn't need them. Well McCarty guessed wrong big time.

 Gridlock within gridlock. Over promise and under deliver is never a good strategy. The Republicans look like fools.