Good Ole California.

[bats]

So it is overblown to say that the legislators hid behind an NDA instead of explaining why they spent the money and how they determined this was the best way? With one party rule, hearings and process are overridden regularly.  This is not right.

I think we need to be more skeptical of media reports like the one from KCRA.

Also, here's a website for the project:

https://annex.assembly.ca.gov/capitol-annex

[Danno]

you mean like this. they still don't know who took this money.

Note: U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told Congress Wednesday that the Trump administration intends to keep secret the names of the businesses that have received more than $500 billion in COVID-19 bailout funds through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), claiming the information is "confidential."

Even by the Trump administration's infinitesimally low standards for accountability and oversight, this announcement was jaw-dropping.

Making sure trillions in tax dollars go to workers, not profiteers, begins with knowing where it goes. What are they hiding? Are massive corporations masquerading as small businesses receiving funds? Are President Donald Trump and Mnuchin's pals getting money when they shouldn't be? These are questions that need to be answered, and the only way to do that is through complete transparency.

The PPP loans are intended to help small businesses, and without a deep understanding of recipient data, there is no way to know if Main Street businesses are getting what they need.

One of the differences between a Republican and a Democrat is the Republican wants to know how their tax money is spent. Democrats want secrecy and don't care about saving taxpayer money, it's not theirs so they don't give a shit...they will just raise taxes when they need more.

[Romanticlover]

Yeah like the $32 billion that was given away to crooks here in Cali because the EDD didn't implement security measures on their website.

The pandemic relief was a waste of tax-payers money but the PPP had the most waste, both parties are to blame for the cluster fuck. Business owners took the money and ran, many closed for good.

Rand Paul had it right when he didn't vote for it.

[Danno]

they are recovering more of that money everyday and putting people in jail, it happened in every state and was federal dollars

Yeah like the $32 billion that was given away to crooks here in Cali because the EDD didn't implement security measures on their website.

The pandemic relief was a waste of tax-payers money but the PPP had the most waste, both parties are to blame for the cluster fuck. Business owners took the money and ran, many closed for good.

Rand Paul had it right when he didn't vote for it.

[Hobby]

If there is dollar to be stolen Trump will find it.

[Bande]

If there is dollar to be stolen Trump will find it.

Off subject. Nothing to do with Trump.

[Danno]

Trump thinks that the Tariffs are going to fund the government so he can give the rich more tax cuts.

If there is dollar to be stolen Trump will find it.

[Bande]

I think we need to be more skeptical of media reports like the one from KCRA.

Also, here's a website for the project:

https://annex.assembly.ca.gov/capitol-annex

So you are good for them spending millions, signing NDAs , and out of the people general knowledge.
I'm pretty sure the people would of nixed spending this much.
Good ole Newsome works for himself and not the people.

[dogwalker]

Yeah like the $32 billion that was given away to crooks here in Cali because the EDD didn't implement security measures on their website.

I know of a pimp that probably got $20K  through a front operation......
Authorities may check it after the fact if anyone reports him but
would there ever be any criminal charge for $20K fraudulently received given the overall magnitude of what happened?

[Romanticlover]

I know of a pimp that probably got $20K  through a front operation......
Authorities may check it after the fact if anyone reports him but
would there ever be any criminal charge for $20K fraudulently received given the overall magnitude of what happened?

Probably not, the feds are focusing on people who stole over 2 million.
Cali is focusing on people who stole over 500K.

https://www.dinsmore.com/publications/ppp-loan-investigations-and-prosecutions-are-on-the-rise/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Small%20Business%20Administration,prosecutions%20of%20PPP%20loan%20fraud.

The statute of limitations is 5 years under federal law and 3 years under Cali law for civil fraud but there's no statute of limitations on stealing public money, they will be prosecuting these crooks for decades.

[Blkfyre]

Yeah like the $32 billion that was given away to crooks here in Cali because the EDD didn't implement security measures on their website.

The pandemic relief was a waste of tax-payers money but the PPP had the most waste, both parties are to blame for the cluster fuck. Business owners took the money and ran, many closed for good.

Rand Paul had it right when he didn't vote for it.

LOL, $32 Billion is chump change compared to the money given out to Republican states fraudently:

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2023/07/07/14-charged-with-53-million-ppp-scheme-in-n-texas/81841/

Fourteen people were charged in a $53 million fraud scheme involving the federal government's pandemic relief program, including some executives from a Dallas metal recycling firm.

https://wsvn.com/news/special-reports/the-great-scam-federal-prosecutors-take-us-inside-south-floridas-most-shocking-cases-of-covid-relief-fraud/

https://www.irs.gov/compliance/criminal-investigation/south-florida-residents-sentenced-to-prison-for-28-million-covid-19-paycheck-protection-program-fraud-scheme

It is always amazing that conservatives seem to forget that their own party/states steal with just as much, if not more abandon than liberal states...

[Romanticlover]

Cali had the most fraud of PPP and CARES funds due to it being the most populous state inhabited with the most crooks.
The last time I checked $32 billion is more than $53 million.

https://www.kcra.com/article/analysis-edd-fraud-326-billion-and-counting/41281662

"Governor Newsom is a leader; 32.6 billion, he beat every other state by a factor of at least three, there was more fraud in the state of California than there was in any other state in the country. Right?" Talcove said.

[Danno]

this is the biggest Fraud that nobody is concerned about.

Note: U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told Congress Wednesday that the Trump administration intends to keep secret the names of the businesses that have received more than $500 billion in COVID-19 bailout funds through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), claiming the information is "confidential." HALF A TRILLION stolen by Trump and his buddies.

Cali had the most fraud of PPP and CARES funds due to it being the most populous state inhabited with the most crooks.
The last time I checked $32 billion is more than $53 million. 

https://www.kcra.com/article/analysis-edd-fraud-326-billion-and-counting/41281662

"Governor Newsom is a leader; 32.6 billion, he beat every other state by a factor of at least three, there was more fraud in the state of California than there was in any other state in the country. Right?" Talcove said.

[Romanticlover]

You keep posting that Danno but I never see any links
to back it up.

[Danno]

posted the link many times, pretty easy search. https://www.citizen.org/news/keeping-500-billion-in-bailout-funds-secret/                https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/12/mnuchin-secrecy-bailout-rift-congress-315940          https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-14/treasury-chief-refusing-to-disclose-recipients-of-virus-aid

You keep posting that Danno but I never see any links
to back it up.