Supreme Court Justices

Started by Bande, Jun 10, 2022, 07:15 PM

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Hobby

Former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said some pro-choice protests may be violations did not say have... kind of watered down... but yes these people should have been arrested.
Hobby

bats

The statute requires that the offender act "corruptly," or threaten, or use force, or use a threatening letter or communication.

Given the First Amendment, it might be difficult for a prosecutor to prove that one of these protesters committed a crime as described in section 1507.

Hobby

Quote from: bats on Jun 11, 2022, 09:04 PMThe statute requires that the offender act "corruptly," or threaten, or use force, or use a threatening letter or communication.

Given the First Amendment, it might be difficult for a prosecutor to prove that one of these protesters committed a crime as described in section 1507.

Would not really matter if the prosecutor will prove anything...may not go to court...but the protestors could be hauled in and held for 24 hrs without any charges being brought.... just saying.
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Quote from: bats on Jun 11, 2022, 09:04 PMThe statute requires that the offender act "corruptly," or threaten, or use force, or use a threatening letter or communication.

Given the First Amendment, it might be difficult for a prosecutor to prove that one of these protesters committed a crime as described in section 1507.
Sir, you are wrong. It is a form of Intimidation in front of residences as it states and could be done legally in front of a court house per say..

This is why federal law prohibits picketing or parading in front of the home of a judge, juror, witness, or officer of the court under pain of up to one year in prison. Efforts to intimidate people within the legal system are an offense against judicial independence, a key prerequisite to democracy. If protesters want to demonstrate outside the Supreme Court, that is fine. But going into a judge's neighborhood and marching in front of his or her home is too far. It is a dangerous act of intimidation that should be roundly criticized.
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Bande

Quote from: Romanticlover on Jun 11, 2022, 10:58 AMThe only protestor arrested was that nutjob that wanted to kill Kavanaugh.
And that is due to him calling on himself.

HighStepper

1721. PROTECTION OF GOVERNMENT PROCESSES -- OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE -- SCOPE OF 18 U.S.C. 1503 Link
This law enacted in 1950 would indicate that even peaceful protestors are in violation of the law if they picket or protest in front of a judge's home.

Protesting in front of a person's house goes as far back as the Eastman Kodak hiring practices protest in the 1960's when people gathered in front of company executives mansions in Rochester New York.

Did these peaceful protestors know that there was a law that created an exception to the 1st amendment right of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech? Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Individuals found in violation of this law could be fined, sentenced to up to one year in prison, or both. So in this specific case, what should be done? Warning with disbursement? Citation for violation? Arrest with book and release?

Too much sex is still not enough.

Romanticlover

Not only are these protestors violating Federal law they are violating a county ordinance in Maryland against picketing in front of house.

I wonder if they would enforce the laws if it was conservatives picketing in front of a leftist judge's house.
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bats

Sorry, guys. I was looking at the statute that Bill Barr said was being violated--18 U.S. Code § 1503. The statute on picketing and parading (18 U.S. Code § 1507) would appear to apply to these protesters.

There might be a constitutional issue with the statute, however, as it might be interpreted as violating the protesters' First Amendment rights.

bats

Quote from: Hobby on Jun 11, 2022, 09:07 PMWould not really matter if the prosecutor will prove anything...may not go to court...but the protestors could be hauled in and held for 24 hrs without any charges being brought.... just saying.
Wait. Aren't the cops supposed to have probable cause to believe that you committed a crime before they haul you off? lol

Romanticlover

I want to know who is funding these professional protestors, they don't look like retirees to me.
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Blkfyre

Quote from: Hobby on Jun 11, 2022, 05:31 PMSort of a dumb question when Biden and other leaders along with the mayor are democrats who support the protestors being there and abortion and don't support our laws.

Biden and the mayor can't arrest people. If what they did is illegal have the police arrested them? Has the DA pushed to have these people jailed?

Blkfyre

Quote from: Bande on Jun 11, 2022, 07:45 PMIt is against Federal Law to intimidate anyone involved in a Federal case. Especially in front of Private Residences.
Now, If one is protesting in front of a court house per say that is different.
They all need to be arrested.\
Blkfyre what you state is inaccurate.
Once again Leftists do not react and arrest people..

This is why federal law prohibits picketing or parading in front of the home of a judge, juror, witness, or officer of the court under pain of up to one year in prison. Efforts to intimidate people within the legal system are an offense against judicial independence, a key prerequisite to democracy. If protesters want to demonstrate outside the Supreme Court, that is fine. But going into a judge's neighborhood and marching in front of his or her home is too far. It is a dangerous act of intimidation that should be roundly criticized.

What am I incorrect about?

Romanticlover

Well the SCOTUS Security bill passed the House even though 27 Democrats voted against it, they were the usual suspects who hate this country and law & order: Maxine Waters, AOC, etc

https://www.businessinsider.com/27-house-democrats-vote-against-police-protection-supreme-court-kavanaugh-2022-6
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Blkfyre

Quote from: Romanticlover on Jun 16, 2022, 10:37 AMWell the SCOTUS Security bill passed the House even though 27 Democrats voted against it, they were the usual suspects who hate this country and law & order: Maxine Waters, AOC, etc

https://www.businessinsider.com/27-house-democrats-vote-against-police-protection-supreme-court-kavanaugh-2022-6

Yeah, it's awful when people who should be voting on things to protect people instead vote differently, right?

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