F.B.I. Confirms there was no Insurrection on January 6th

Started by Bande, Oct 26, 2022, 04:01 PM

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Bande

Old news that still holds..


The Cambridge Dictionary defines "insurrection" as: "an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence"

By that definition, there was no "insurrection" at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/capitol-riot-attack-fbi-evidence-b1906060.html



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/fbi-confirms-there-was-no-insurrection-on-january-6

Blkfyre

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insurrection

Nice bit of wordplay. Except, as usual for conservatives, you read the headline but not actually the details. Let's take a look at the Cambridge Dictionary using the word correctly in a sentence:

"Two men were apparently so resentful, they criticized the plaintiff defendant and incited a juror insurrection."

So, according to this, the words of a few incited someone to insurrection. Gee, that doesn't sound very organized to me, and, particularly on the nose isn't it?

bats

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Quote from: Bande on Oct 26, 2022, 04:01 PMOld news that still holds..
This is funny. Here's a line from the Reuters article you linked, published in August 2021:

But so far prosecutors have steered clear of more serious, politically-loaded charges that the sources said had been initially discussed by prosecutors, such as seditious conspiracy or racketeering.

As you said, this is old news. In fact, DOJ secured its first conviction for seditious conspiracy on March 2nd of this year. I'm not following everything as closely as some, but I know that at least 11 others have been charged with the same crime.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that, in addition to convictions for seditious conspiracy already secured, there's the work of the January 6th committee, which has presented a shit ton of evidence that the insurrection at the capitol was indeed coordinated, with one Donald J. Trump often at the center of the planning.

HighStepper

You said it OLD NEWS AUGUST 20, 2021

Now with information coming from the January 6th investigative hearings, the committee chair says the attack appeared to be a coordinated effort with many involved.

An overwhelming majority (72%) of Americans believe the people involved in the attack on the Capitol were "threatening democracy." Link

Call it what you want. It was an attack on the Capitol to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power instigated by the maniac Benedict Donald. 
Too much sex is still not enough.

Bande

Quote from: HighStepper on Oct 26, 2022, 06:59 PMYou said it OLD NEWS AUGUST 20, 2021

Now with information coming from the January 6th investigative hearings, the committee chair says the attack appeared to be a coordinated effort with many involved.

An overwhelming majority (72%) of Americans believe the people involved in the attack on the Capitol were "threatening democracy." Link

Call it what you want. It was an attack on the Capitol to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power instigated by the maniac Benedict Donald. 


A so called attack with no weapons.. OK... If this was a organized attack weapons would of been everywhere.
Obstructing a transfer might be blamed on the Demoncrats since it looks as though they opened the doors, waived people in, Hired a Hollywood movie producer and had a documentary crew shows intentions itself..
They need to try again.. LOL

Blkfyre

You keep saying no weapons. That is because you are IGNORING any report that says there WERE WEAPONS because that doesn't fit your narrative:

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/indiana-man-pleads-guilty-carrying-gun-and-assaulting-law-enforcement-officers-jan-6

Indiana Man Pleads Guilty to Carrying a Gun and Assaulting Law Enforcement Officers in Jan. 6 Capitol Breach
Firearm Was Loaded with Shotgun Shells and Hollow-Point Bullets

WASHINGTON – An Indiana man pleaded guilty today to carrying a loaded gun on Capitol grounds and assaulting law enforcement officers during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His and others' actions disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain and count the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

Mark Andrew Mazza, 57, of Shelbyville,  Indiana, pleaded guilty in the District of Columbia to assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers with a dangerous weapon and carrying a pistol without a license.

According to court documents, Mazza brought a Taurus revolver, loaded with three shotgun shells and two hollow point bullets, into Washington, D.C., to the Ellipse, and then to the Capitol. Sometime on U.S. Capitol grounds before 2:45 p.m., Mazza lost possession of the revolver. Mazza illegally made his way to the Lower West Terrace and a tunnel area with doors leading into the Capitol Building. He joined in a collective effort of rioters to push through at least 20 officers who were defending the tunnel entrance. At approximately 3:13 p.m., Mazza moved to the front of the tunnel line, next to the first set of doors. He held open one of the doors, and, as he did so, he allowed other rioters to attack officers with flag poles, batons, sticks and stolen law enforcement shields, and try force their way through the line of officers.  Thereafter, he took control of a baton from an officer's hand and swung it overhead and downward to strike at officers in the tunnel entrance, hitting one officer in the arm. After striking at the officers with the baton, he continued his efforts to get past law enforcement officers and yelled, "This is our f---- house! We own this house!"

After moving back from the front line, he then participated in "heave-ho" efforts to apply significant physical force and pressure on the officers to remove them from the doorway. Mazza was pushed out of the tunnel by law enforcement officers, but he remained on the Capitol grounds until flash bang grenades were deployed by law enforcement officers later that afternoon. On Jan. 8, 2021, according to the documents, Mazza filed a false police report in Indiana in which he claimed to have lost his gun at an Ohio casino.

Both weapons and the treasonous crowd opening the doors is a documented fact. Please stop repeating that conservative lie...

Danno

Bande keeps saying he has watched the Jan 6th hearings. Guess he had the sound turned off.
Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome

dogwalker

I'm tempted to quote Shakespeare here.....something about a rose...and something about it's going to still smell like a rose and you'll know it's a rose no matter what you call it.....