Electric Car scam. Dirty Lies..

Started by Bande, Aug 20, 2022, 07:04 PM

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HighStepper

Under Obama electric cars could not be advertised as o emission. Trump reversed that and Bidden has gone along with it.

A key issue has to do with where the electricity to charge up the batteries comes from. If coal fired plants are in the mix very bad. We really need to start looking at nuclear plants to generate energy.

Cobalt mining is the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about. Most people have no awareness of this.

I'm holding on to my gas burning El Dorado Cadillac until they pry it from my cold dead hands.
Too much sex is still not enough.

Hobby

We have to start conserving fossil fuels and find alternative energy at some point so why not now? If we keep burning fossil fuel energy at the rate we are going we will be out of gas then where will be?  Nuclear power should be a top priority before electric cars as nuclear energy will supply more than just energy for cars. Windmills and Solar just are not dependable and cost money to maintain.  The big problem with nuclear energy is what to do with the used fuel... How about storing it at the South Pole where the temp is always below 0 degrees...

Bande

How much fossil fuel does it take to power electric cars?
To advance the climate agenda and deflect backlash about rising gas prices, the federal government is telling Americans that driving electric cars is for the greater good of the environment, fully knowing the charging stations for these cars are not fossil-fuel free.
In reality, one of Tesla's Supercharger stations was reported to receive 13 percent of their energy from natural gas and 27 percent from coal. Power plants burn coal to generate electricity to power electric cars and emit a higher fossil fuel footprint than the left would care to admit.
Are consumers being fed false information about going green with electric cars? Many people who invest in these high-priced cars are able to avoid paying the currently outrageous gas prices. However, Americans need to know what happens if they rely solely on electric cars, the batteries they require, and how it will increase our dependence on countries such as China for rare earth materials.
Chinese companies have secured most of these rare earth minerals and raw materials that go inside the batteries. The Chinese dominance in the market has stirred fears in Washington that Detroit could someday be rendered obsolete, and that Beijing could control American driving in the 21st century. Much like how the middle-east and OPEC previously controlled our markets as the main oil-producing nations in the past.
By increasing our use of electric cars, the United States will require more lithium batteries and this will force us to further rely on China to sustain our battery supply. While the current energy crisis could be an opportunity for America to increase our energy independence, the current administration refuses to take advantage of this to lower prices at the pump and electric costs.
Biden's electric vehicle plan is a big win for China and not for the USA. We have proven in the past that we are capable of becoming energy independent and profiting from American-made energy. The Biden Administration has no plans to shift gears away from China's mass-energy production, even as China continues to push the rigid "green" standards that hold our own producers back and make China massive amounts of money.
As long as the United States continues to outsource production and jobs to China, it will be hardworking Americans who suffer the economic consequences of our energy dependence.
The Bottom Line
How much fossil fuel is required to power an individual electric car?
This depends on where you live in the country. For example, in California where solar power is the dominant renewable power source. Charging your car at night roughly doubles the amount of fossil fuel used compared to charging during the day. (95 percent of electric cars are charged at night.)
The source of fossil fuels in an electric car comes through the larger power grid across America. In order to charge your electric car, you have to plug it into the power grid. So, in that sense, your toaster, hair dryer, phone charger, etc. all use fossil fuels too.

HighStepper

Quote from: Hobby on Aug 20, 2022, 08:54 PM...The big problem with nuclear energy is what to do with the used fuel...

  • Commercial used nuclear fuel is a solid. It's a solid when it goes into the reactor and a solid when it comes out.
  • The U.S. generates about 2,000 metric tons of used fuel each year. Number is actually quite small. U.S. has produced 83,000 metrics tons of used fuel since the 1950s—and all of it could fit on a single football field at a depth of less than 10 yards.
  • Used fuel is stored at more than 70 sites in 34 U.S. states. The fuel is either enclosed in steel-lined concrete pools of water or in steel and concrete containers, known as dry storage casks.
  • Used fuel is safely transported across the United States. Over the last 55 years, more than 2,500 cask shipments of used fuel have been transported across the United States without any radiological releases to the environment or harm to the public.
  • Used fuel can be recycled. Used nuclear fuel can be recycled to make new fuel and byproducts. More than 90% of its potential energy still remains in the fuel.
Link

U.S. Department of Energy promo video.
5 Fast Facts about Spent Nuclear Fuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2qCydu7Hk&t=37s




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bats

Quote from: Bande on Sep 11, 2022, 08:36 AMHow much fossil fuel does it take to power electric cars?
To advance the climate agenda and deflect backlash about rising gas prices, the federal government is telling Americans that driving electric cars is for the greater good of the environment, fully knowing the charging stations for these cars are not fossil-fuel free.
In reality, one of Tesla's Supercharger stations was reported to receive 13 percent of their energy from natural gas and 27 percent from coal. Power plants burn coal to generate electricity to power electric cars and emit a higher fossil fuel footprint than the left would care to admit.
Are consumers being fed false information about going green with electric cars? Many people who invest in these high-priced cars are able to avoid paying the currently outrageous gas prices. However, Americans need to know what happens if they rely solely on electric cars, the batteries they require, and how it will increase our dependence on countries such as China for rare earth materials.
Chinese companies have secured most of these rare earth minerals and raw materials that go inside the batteries. The Chinese dominance in the market has stirred fears in Washington that Detroit could someday be rendered obsolete, and that Beijing could control American driving in the 21st century. Much like how the middle-east and OPEC previously controlled our markets as the main oil-producing nations in the past.
By increasing our use of electric cars, the United States will require more lithium batteries and this will force us to further rely on China to sustain our battery supply. While the current energy crisis could be an opportunity for America to increase our energy independence, the current administration refuses to take advantage of this to lower prices at the pump and electric costs.
Biden's electric vehicle plan is a big win for China and not for the USA. We have proven in the past that we are capable of becoming energy independent and profiting from American-made energy. The Biden Administration has no plans to shift gears away from China's mass-energy production, even as China continues to push the rigid "green" standards that hold our own producers back and make China massive amounts of money.
As long as the United States continues to outsource production and jobs to China, it will be hardworking Americans who suffer the economic consequences of our energy dependence.
The Bottom Line
How much fossil fuel is required to power an individual electric car?
This depends on where you live in the country. For example, in California where solar power is the dominant renewable power source. Charging your car at night roughly doubles the amount of fossil fuel used compared to charging during the day. (95 percent of electric cars are charged at night.)
The source of fossil fuels in an electric car comes through the larger power grid across America. In order to charge your electric car, you have to plug it into the power grid. So, in that sense, your toaster, hair dryer, phone charger, etc. all use fossil fuels too.
Why not credit the article you copied and pasted? Here, I'll show you:

https://www.newsmax.com/Health/laurenfix/fossil-fuels-electric-vehicles-tesla-energy-supplies/2022/06/03/id/1072829/