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This is according to a book by Bob Woodward, to come out next week.

It's not difficult to believe, considering Trump wishes Putin were his daddy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33vjjg8k3yo

That doesn't surprise me if Trump did that. Not a national top secret was it?

Posting something negative about Trump will draw an accusation of having Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS).

Steven Cheung, Trump's communications director said, "None of these made up stories by Bob Woodward are true and are the work of a truly demented and deranged man who suffers from a debilitating case of Trump Derangement Syndrome," Link

Very bad optics. Giving his "friend" Putin, an enemy of America, Covid test kits while American citizens were clamoring for them. Just goes to show Trump doesn't consider Americans as friends of his.

Quote from: Hobby on Oct 09, 2024, 01:33 AMNot a national top secret was it?

That is a key issue, we don't know. Trump spoke to Putin as many as 7 times since leaving office. Trump had boxes and boxes of classified documents. Who know what information he shared with Putin. Let's not forget Trump revealed "highly classified information" to two top Russian officials during a controversial Oval Office meeting.

Sharing covid information worldwide with other countries was the right thing to do. 

Big deal, it wan't classified info.

Side note: Bob Woodward is a die-hard leftist Democrat, he never wrote about the wrongdoing of LBJ, not to mention the corruption going on In NYC right now. Mayor Adams is under Federal indictment and all his cronies are resigning.

Quote from: Hobby on Oct 09, 2024, 01:49 PMSharing covid information worldwide with other countries was the right thing to do. 

The reporting is that he secretly sent Covid tests to Putin when those tests were in short supply here in the United States. That is NOT the right thing to do.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Oct 09, 2024, 02:19 PMBig deal, it wan't classified info.

It wasn't "info" of any kind. As U.S. president, during a shortage of COVID tests in our own country, Trump sent his idol (our adversary) a supply of tests.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Oct 09, 2024, 02:19 PMSide note: Bob Woodward is a die-hard leftist Democrat, he never wrote about the wrongdoing of LBJ, not to mention the corruption going on In NYC right now. Mayor Adams is under Federal indictment and all his cronies are resigning.

Do you expect one reporter to cover all angles at all times, or else anything they do is invalid or less credible? How absurd.

Defenders of tRump will defend him to the bitter end.  As he said, He could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in cold blood and get away with it. 

Scary times we live in.  I'm a history buff and the tRump loyalists remind me so much of the German population in the 1930's.  Joseph Goebbel's propaganda has been replaced by FoxNews and Social media, but the impact on good people is the same.  Good American citizens adore tRump, refuse to see the truth and accept all of tRump's lies no matter how unbelievable.  Replace Jews in the 1930's with Mexicans and Haitians in 2024.  The Third Reich had the same opinion of the gay population as MAGA does.  They also believed the only proper woman was at home, pregnant and producing as many little Hitler Youth as possible, much the same as the view many in MAGA have about something being wrong with childless women.

In Germany, they were the greatest military power on earth at the time. America was just a sleeping giant.  it took a horrendous defeat by the US and other world entities to finally awaken the German population to the  realization that Hitler was a terrible leader.  Hopefully, it doesn't take that to happen to us.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Oct 09, 2024, 02:19 PMBig deal, it wan't classified info.

By all means, let's skip over the part about Trump spoke to Putin as many as 7 times since leaving office and Trump had boxes and boxes of classified documents.

QuoteSide note: Bob Woodward is a die-hard leftist Democrat...

Another person's opinion:  Woodward is an investigative journalist. He and Carl Bernstein broke the Watergate story that led to the resignation of President Nixon. The two are probably the most influential journalists in the last 50 years. Last I checked, Bob Woodward is a Republican. Link

I could not fact check him being a Republican just like I could not fact check that he is a Democrat.

Two Pulitzer Prizes. Twenty-one bestselling books. Fifteen #1 best-sellers:
https://www.bobwoodward.com/

Quote from: Zep on Oct 09, 2024, 02:57 PMDefenders of tRump will defend him to the bitter end.  As he said, He could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in cold blood and get away with it. 

Scary times we live in.  I'm a history buff and the tRump loyalists remind me so much of the German population in the 1930's.  Joseph Goebbel's propaganda has been replaced by FoxNews and Social media, but the impact on good people is the same.  Good American citizens adore tRump, refuse to see the truth and accept all of tRump's lies no matter how unbelievable.  Replace Jews in the 1930's with Mexicans and Haitians in 2024.  The Third Reich had the same opinion of the gay population as MAGA does.  They also believed the only proper woman was at home, pregnant and producing as many little Hitler Youth as possible, much the same as the view many in MAGA have about something being wrong with childless women.

In Germany, they were the greatest military power on earth at the time. America was just a sleeping giant.  it took a horrendous defeat by the US and other world entities to finally awaken the German population to the  realization that Hitler was a terrible leader.  Hopefully, it doesn't take that to happen to us.

What does all of this have to do with sharing covid data and information? 

Some of the things Trump says i agree with like getting along with other leaders even when you don't like them.

Quote from: Hobby on Oct 09, 2024, 05:08 PMWhat does all of this have to do with sharing covid data and information? 

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The discussion here is not about the legitimate sharing of information for the public good. Zep compared Hitler's Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Goebbels who masterminded the Nazi propaganda machine with FoxNews and Social media propaganda which supports Donald Trump's lies. Zep points out that Hitler blaming the Jews is analogous to Trump blaming the Mexicans and Haitians.

QuoteSome of the things Trump says i agree with like getting along with other leaders even when you don't like them.

Duh, that is a no brainer. Getting along with people you like is easy. Getting along with people you don't like may be a challenge, but true leaders have to do it. Notice how Trump does not get along well with people he doesn't like?

Who are the nation's leaders that trump gets along well with that "HE" doesn't like?  He is buddies with Putin, Orban, Kim Jong Un, Salman. He loves those guys and will do anything to stay buddies with them. He envies their ability to be dictators.

So.. Who are those that he hates and detests but has good working relationships with?

Quote from: HighStepper on Oct 09, 2024, 04:08 PMBy all means, let's skip over the part about Trump spoke to Putin as many as 7 times since leaving office and Trump had boxes and boxes of classified documents.
Another person's opinion:  Woodward is an investigative journalist. He and Carl Bernstein broke the Watergate story that led to the resignation of President Nixon. The two are probably the most influential journalists in the last 50 years. Last I checked, Bob Woodward is a Republican. Link

I could not fact check him being a Republican just like I could not fact check that he is a Democrat.

Two Pulitzer Prizes. Twenty-one bestselling books. Fifteen #1 best-sellers:
https://www.bobwoodward.com/

I don't care, never read his work.

Still waiting for him to write a best seller about corrupt LBJ.

As for sending COVID test kits to Russia, I'm not happy but it's just like Newsom giving $2 billion of taxpayer money to a Chinese company to make worthless surgery masks back in 2020.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Oct 09, 2024, 07:25 PMAs for sending COVID test kits to Russia, I'm not happy but it's just like Newsom giving $2 billion of taxpayer money to a Chinese company to make worthless surgery masks back in 2020.

You're "not happy," but you couldn't leave it there. You had to manufacture yet another irrelevant whataboutism, this time by offering an inapt comparison to a Democratic politician you don't like.

What a lame counterpoint.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Oct 09, 2024, 07:25 PMI don't care, never read his work.

Still waiting for him to write a best seller about corrupt LBJ.

As for sending COVID test kits to Russia, I'm not happy but it's just like Newsom giving $2 billion of taxpayer money to a Chinese company to make worthless surgery masks back in 2020.

Crawford Technology Group, Chinese manufacturer was charged with producing and exporting to the United States in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic over 140,000 misbranded and defective masks that falsely purported to be KN95 Link

BYD, the Chinese electric car manufacturer each month will ship 150 million N95 masks and 50 million surgical masks. ($1-billion mask deal) Link For some context at the beginning of 2020 there were Covid lockdowns and widespread panic nationally about the shortage of masks.