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Blocking our border really won't stop illegals from crossing.  The United States needs to first go into Mexico and take out, and destroy all the drug cartels. Next identify and declare corrupt officials as enemies and terrorist who have allowed cartels to operate and imprison them.  We need to take over Mexico and punish all those who break the law.  Then we move south to the next country and so on.  We give back opportunity and freedom to the good citizens of those countries.  We have the most powerful military in the world what's the point of being number one if we allow other countries to poison us?  The US can make it where people thrive and do well in their country and not want to come here. We just need to stop trying to control our border by helping people reclaim their home country. 

Quote from: Hobby on Nov 09, 2024, 04:51 PMBlocking our border really won't stop illegals from crossing.  The United States needs to first go into Mexico and take out, and destroy all the drug cartels. Next identify and declare corrupt officials as enemies and terrorist who have allowed cartels to operate and imprison them.  We need to take over Mexico and punish all those who break the law.  Then we move south to the next country and so on.  We give back opportunity and freedom to the good citizens of those countries.  We have the most powerful military in the world what's the point of being number one if we allow other countries to poison us?  The US can make it where people thrive and do well in their country and not want to come here. We just need to stop trying to control our border by helping people reclaim their home country. 

It's bad form to invade neighboring countries. We save that shit for the Middle East and parts of Asia.

Quote from: Hobby on Nov 09, 2024, 04:51 PMBlocking our border really won't stop illegals from crossing.  The United States needs to first go into Mexico and take out, and destroy all the drug cartels. Next identify and declare corrupt officials as enemies and terrorist who have allowed cartels to operate and imprison them.  We need to take over Mexico and punish all those who break the law.  Then we move south to the next country and so on.  We give back opportunity and freedom to the good citizens of those countries.  We have the most powerful military in the world what's the point of being number one if we allow other countries to poison us?  The US can make it where people thrive and do well in their country and not want to come here. We just need to stop trying to control our border by helping people reclaim their home country. 

Aren't people complaining about Russia doing to to Ukraine?

Quote from: Zep on Nov 09, 2024, 03:15 PMI don't want anyone here illegally.  I do want an extreme increase in legalized immigration. Our nation's population is dropping. We need more people joining the work force, paying into social security and paying taxes. We cannot sustain our current benefits with a dwindling population. 

Whether some Americans like it or not, we need more coming across the border, not less. 

This is THE position.  Not the unfiltered last few years of anyone from anywhere version of migration

Quote from: bligslick on Nov 10, 2024, 02:01 AMThis is THE position.  Not the unfiltered last few years of anyone from anywhere version of migration

Yet you voted AGAINST that position. Trump's model for immigration is Viktor Orban's Hungary. A few years ago Orban said this:

"It's my personal conviction that migration leads in the end to the destruction of nations and states." 

Trump doesn't want to increase legal immigration. Remember, he's the guy who said immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country."

As to his mass deportation program, he says he'll start with criminals, but he wants ALL undocumented immigrants out, and he doesn't care if some lawful residents get swept up in the process: