Biden pardons 1500 criminals

Started by Romanticlover, Dec 13, 2024, 06:08 AM

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Romanticlover

In the largest clemency in a single day in US history, Joe Biden gave clemency to nearly 1500 criminals.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/bidens-clemency-pardon-list-includes-former-elected-official-lawyers-m-rcna184032

After Old Joe pardoned his crackhead son this doesn't surprise me, he will go down in history as the most corrupt President ever.
Are we having fun yet?

thaikhan

Yeah but every president does something similar when they leave office. I'd pardon and give clemency to my VP and then step aside so they can do the same for me.

Danno

none are the involved in the insurrection that Trump caused Jan 6th
Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome

Blkfyre

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Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 13, 2024, 06:08 AMIn the largest clemency in a single day in US history, Joe Biden gave clemency to nearly 1500 criminals.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/bidens-clemency-pardon-list-includes-former-elected-official-lawyers-m-rcna184032

After Old Joe pardoned his crackhead son this doesn't surprise me, he will go down in history as the most corrupt President ever.

Sigh, it's amazing that most Trumpers aren't acquainted with actual facts: (From your link):

"Biden commuted close to 1,500 sentences and pardoned 39 people in a sweeping and historic act for people who had been convicted of nonviolent crimes — many related to illegal drugs — and released from prison more than a year ago under a pandemic-era law, the CARES Act, to limit crowding in federal prisons."

So, headline says "Biden pardoned 1500 Criminals. He did not, he pardoned 39.

He commuted the sentences of the rest. Why does that make a difference? Again, from your link:

"Many of those who received pardons had long ago completed their sentences, but the crimes will now be wiped from their records."

Trump people need to look at more than the headlines of people in their echo chambers and actually read things before posting them...

By the way, with that being said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

"Of the pardons and commutations that Trump did grant, the vast majority were to persons to whom Trump had a personal or political connection, or persons for whom executive clemency served a political goal. A significant number had been convicted of fraud or public corruption. The New York Times reported that during the closing days of the Trump presidency, individuals with access to the administration, such as former administration officials, were soliciting fees to lobby for presidential pardons"

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trumps-circumvention-justice-department-clemency-process

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/trump-was-swamp/617748/

So the majority of Biden's acts of clemency and pardon were for humanitarian reasons, Trump's were purely in his own self-interest or cronies that he wanted to get off the hook...

Danno

Quote from: Blkfyre on Dec 13, 2024, 02:41 PMSigh, it's amazing that most Trumpers aren't acquainted with actual facts: (From your link):

"Biden commuted close to 1,500 sentences and pardoned 39 people in a sweeping and historic act for people who had been convicted of nonviolent crimes — many related to illegal drugs — and released from prison more than a year ago under a pandemic-era law, the CARES Act, to limit crowding in federal prisons."

So, headline says "Biden pardoned 1500 Criminals. He did not, he pardoned 39.

He commuted the sentences of the rest. Why does that make a difference? Again, from your link:

"Many of those who received pardons had long ago completed their sentences, but the crimes will now be wiped from their records."

Trump people need to look at more than the headlines of people in their echo chambers and actually read things before posting them...

By the way, with that being said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

"Of the pardons and commutations that Trump did grant, the vast majority were to persons to whom Trump had a personal or political connection, or persons for whom executive clemency served a political goal. A significant number had been convicted of fraud or public corruption. The New York Times reported that during the closing days of the Trump presidency, individuals with access to the administration, such as former administration officials, were soliciting fees to lobby for presidential pardons"

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trumps-circumvention-justice-department-clemency-process

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/trump-was-swamp/617748/

So the majority of Biden's acts of clemency and pardon were for humanitarian reasons, Trump's were purely in his own self-interest or cronies that he wanted to get off the hook...

facts hurt their brain
Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome

Romanticlover

Call it what you will but Old Joe is still a crook, that's a fact.
Are we having fun yet?

Hobby

Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 13, 2024, 06:08 AMIn the largest clemency in a single day in US history, Joe Biden gave clemency to nearly 1500 criminals.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/bidens-clemency-pardon-list-includes-former-elected-official-lawyers-m-rcna184032

After Old Joe pardoned his crackhead son this doesn't surprise me, he will go down in history as the most corrupt President ever.

Give me break.  Biden the most corrupt?  Biden doesnt come anywhere the corruption of Trump. Trump committed many crimes... felonies and has gotten away with it. If thats not corruption I dont know what is  corruption anymore.
Hobby

bats

Quote from: Romanticlover on Dec 13, 2024, 04:10 PMCall it what you will but Old Joe is still a crook, that's a fact.
Wait a sec. You "liked" the reply where Bande said it was a FACT that Trump hasn't been convicted of rape, which is true if we're talking about a criminal case.

But here, you're claiming as fact that "Old Joe" is a crook when he hasn't been charged with any crime.

Seems like there's a double standard at work.

bats

Quote from: Hobby on Dec 13, 2024, 04:31 PMGive me break.  Biden the most corrupt?  Biden doesnt come anywhere the corruption of Trump. Trump committed many crimes... felonies and has gotten away with it. If thats not corruption I dont know what is  corruption anymore.
That's the hilarious thing with the Trumpers. The BS that all those felony indictments were politically motivated has been repeated so many times by Trump and right-wing media that these guys honestly believe it, or at the very least they're unsure. It's pathetic.

dogwalker


Bande

Quote from: Danno on Dec 13, 2024, 10:05 AMnone are the involved in the insurrection that Trump caused Jan 6th

Fact... No charges ever levied for insurrection....
Therefore you are spreading false information.

Bande

Quote from: bats on Dec 13, 2024, 05:07 PMWait a sec. You "liked" the reply where Bande said it was a FACT that Trump hasn't been convicted of rape, which is true if we're talking about a criminal case.

But here, you're claiming as fact that "Old Joe" is a crook when he hasn't been charged with any crime.

Seems like there's a double standard at work.
No doubles standard. Biden crime family is the most corrupt in history. Fact is Biden is providing open clemency to many to save his ass from being indicted..

Felony charges were Trumped up by a corrupt system. In which much of the public seen this and therefore voted for Trump. Unfortunately many brainwashed, uneducated people can not see the LIGHT..
And the rape rhetoric is Trumped up by the democrats. 

bats

Quote from: Bande on Dec 13, 2024, 05:57 PMNo doubles standard. Biden crime family is the most corrupt in history. Fact is Biden is providing open clemency to many to save his ass from being indicted..

Felony charges were Trumped up by a corrupt system. In which much of the public seen this and therefore voted for Trump. Unfortunately many brainwashed, uneducated people can not see the LIGHT..
And the rape rhetoric is Trumped up by the democrats. 
I'm sure Trump World is grateful to you for drinking every drop of the Kool-Aid. JFC

thaikhan

I love how people that can't debate, the first thing they do is go and attack people and claim they don't believe in facts. Lame. Not surprising. Maybe Liberals don't realize they don't believe in facts either when they claim Russian Collusion for the last 8 years and they spent millions of dollars to have that FACT debunked. Not believing in facts seem to be one of the only bipartisan things both parties participate in.

dogwalker

This may be extreme.....I've said it before.....but if one was not directly involved in something or an actual witness to it how do you know what really happened?  By quoting news stories you agree with or crap you see on the internet?  Give me a break.