The Good and innocent people Trump will be pardoning...

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Hobby

Why do Democrats lose that right?


Because they cause the problems Republicans complain about and have to fix after they regain control over congress and POTUS that's why!
Hobby

bligslick

Will Sleepy Joe pardon Fauci?
Wait, he's the hero of the left and never lied or profited from Covid 19!
Fucking conspiracy theories! Stupid MAGA pawns!

I know you'll hate this source, and it's not fact, but it IS a theory... I'd avoid clicking it as you'll start, or rather, continue berating me, and like minded people like me.

Jan 20 is coming soon

Just skip the video And go straight into an emotional rage!


Bande

Quote from: Blkfyre on Jan 08, 2025, 07:22 AMBecause you spent the last 4 years dealing with it? 

Oh wait. Republicans did not. They spent the last 4 years complaining constantly and had the right to do so

Why do Democrats lose that right?
And Democrats been crying since 2016, along with attempting to discredit and provide LIES in a attempt to prosecute Trump.
Trump is winning and bringing back our freedoms away from the COMI lifestyle the last 4 years.
The educated people see all that and Brought Trump back...

Hobby

Quote from: Bande on Jan 08, 2025, 04:19 PMAnd Democrats been crying since 2016, along with attempting to discredit and provide LIES in a attempt to prosecute Trump.
Trump is winning and bringing back our freedoms away from the COMI lifestyle the last 4 years.
The educated people see all that and Brought Trump back...

Democrats should have spent their time helping the economy recover from covid than constantly attacking and prosecuting Trump in the media. I know Trump was responsible for J6th attack on our Capitol. Democrats made J6 political.
Hobby

HighStepper

Quote from: bligslick on Jan 08, 2025, 03:14 PMWill Sleepy Joe pardon Fauci?
Wait, he's the hero of the left and never lied or profited from Covid 19!
Fucking conspiracy theories! Stupid MAGA pawns!

I know you'll hate this source, and it's not fact, but it IS a theory... I'd avoid clicking it as you'll start, or rather, continue berating me, and like minded people like me.

Jan 20 is coming soon

Just skip the video And go straight into an emotional rage!
I recognize that people general do not want to invest the 9 minutes of time to look at unedited video of the actual event. From an unbiased souce like C-Span.
Complete Heated Exchange between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7OGxb9X6E&t=3s

Senator Rand Paul (ophthalmologist) shouts down at Dr. Anthony Fauci at a Senate Hearing. It was pointed out at the hearing that Senator Rand Paul is using his attacks on Fauci to raise money.

Afterward, Senator Rand Paul admitted that he is demonizing Dr. Anthony Fauci to raise money because "that's what politics is about." Link

You are right, I put little faith in Tucker Carlson's ability to present a truthful perspective. It has been legally documented that he is a liar.

What I find fascinating are the outcries of being "berated" while routinely berating those that take exceptions to the actions of Donald Trump. Your calling these people as being irrational, crazy, insane (TDS) is as you say not the best way to get people to see your point of view.
Too much sex is still not enough.

bats

Quote from: bligslick on Jan 08, 2025, 03:14 PMWill Sleepy Joe pardon Fauci?
Wait, he's the hero of the left and never lied or profited from Covid 19!
Fucking conspiracy theories! Stupid MAGA pawns!

I know you'll hate this source, and it's not fact, but it IS a theory... I'd avoid clicking it as you'll start, or rather, continue berating me, and like minded people like me.

Jan 20 is coming soon

Just skip the video And go straight into an emotional rage!


First, why would anyone pay any attention to a "theory" that isn't based on facts?

The video includes some fun dramatic music, but what even is the "theory" being implied? If you could articulate that, maybe there could be some productive discussion.

bligslick

Quote from: HighStepper on Jan 08, 2025, 08:28 PMI recognize that people general do not want to invest the 9 minutes of time to look at unedited video of the actual event. From an unbiased souce like C-Span.
Complete Heated Exchange between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7OGxb9X6E&t=3s

Senator Rand Paul (ophthalmologist) shouts down at Dr. Anthony Fauci at a Senate Hearing. It was pointed out at the hearing that Senator Rand Paul is using his attacks on Fauci to raise money.

Afterward, Senator Rand Paul admitted that he is demonizing Dr. Anthony Fauci to raise money because "that's what politics is about." Link

You are right, I put little faith in Tucker Carlson's ability to present a truthful perspective. It has been legally documented that he is a liar.

What I find fascinating are the outcries of being "berated" while routinely berating those that take exceptions to the actions of Donald Trump. Your calling these people as being irrational, crazy, insane (TDS) is as you say not the best way to get people to see your point of view.

where did I accuse you and the big 4: Danno, Bats, BlkFyre and yourself of TDS?

I am SO tired of the condescension that, yes I will call it out.

Fauci did support gain of function testing in Wuhan. Are you disputing that?

The six foot separation "advice", was pulled out of a hat.  Take the vaccine and stop the spread! It's one thing if it were, we're trying to do the right thing... it's another thing to make statements claiming ""Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science."

Fox News has always been another controlled media source.  If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to take the lashes. 

I've watched that specific 9 minute video. I sat through it again because I like you HS, and I want to be open to new information.  This wasn't new. I don't base my positions on one video, or a few biased sources. I draw conclusions from 60 years of being me.  Since 2015, I've watched endless amounts of views from both sides,  it's what's made me realize the modern Democrat party no longer reflects my values.

What's the answer to the question? Will Biden pardon Fauci? Either way, I look SO forward to the next 3 years. I'd love for us all to get along.  Recall when Biden said he was going to,be the great uniter?

Still waiting... and counting down the days until the pendulum swings in a way that I can be giving my friends high fives.  Surprisingly, there is a larger group of educated friends and relatives that I have that are in alignment with my way of thinking than the outspoken left.

May you and yours find peace in the days weeks and months ahead.

Finally, I used to think of myself as an independent that leaned heavily towards Democrat values. I see the Democrat party going so left, that they're unreasonable.  I have become a republican not because they reached out to me, it's because the left has left me behind...


bligslick

Quote from: bats on Jan 08, 2025, 10:12 PMFirst, why would anyone pay any attention to a "theory" that isn't based on facts?

The video includes some fun dramatic music, but what even is the "theory" being implied? If you could articulate that, maybe there could be some productive discussion.

Theories shouldn't be paid attention to, I'm predicting the future in a, to me, humorous way since I believe this to be a train coming down the track. If I'm wrong, I'm a joke.. but if I'm right, I'll be LOL'ing. I'm putting my stake in the ground to be mocked later. Mock me now based on your opinions are your right, but your footprints will be here later to which to refer

Why am I behind these "theories"?

Lawfare

BS impeachments

Fauci's blatant lies (it's not from a lab, six feet and masks and vaccinations will prevent the spread. Believe it or deny science.

Either way... Jan 20th is a train coming down the track.  Better brace yourself

bats

Quote from: bligslick on Jan 09, 2025, 01:17 AMTheories shouldn't be paid attention to, I'm predicting the future in a, to me, humorous way since I believe this to be a train coming down the track. If I'm wrong, I'm a joke.. but if I'm right, I'll be LOL'ing. I'm putting my stake in the ground to be mocked later. Mock me now based on your opinions are your right, but your footprints will be here later to which to refer
Why am I behind these "theories"?
Lawfare
BS impeachments
Fauci's blatant lies (it's not from a lab, six feet and masks and vaccinations will prevent the spread. Believe it or deny science.
Either way... Jan 20th is a train coming down the track.  Better brace yourself
So you're saying you're "behind" the right-wing accusations of a weaponized DOJ, politically motivated impeachments, and Fauci being an evil liar.

Let's start with the accusation of a weaponized DOJ (i.e., "lawfare"). What's the basis for this? I've never seen any, and I pay reasonably close attention. (It doesn't matter that you think I'm in an echo chamber.)

You've made the accusation of a weaponized DOJ, so what's the specific evidence? You can crib this from right-wing sources, but it has to be concrete evidence. It can't be vibes or opinions. Can you do that?

bligslick

Quote from: bats on Jan 09, 2025, 02:04 AMSo you're saying you're "behind" the right-wing accusations of a weaponized DOJ, politically motivated impeachments, and Fauci being an evil liar.

Let's start with the accusation of a weaponized DOJ (i.e., "lawfare"). What's the basis for this? I've never seen any, and I pay reasonably close attention. (It doesn't matter that you think I'm in an echo chamber.)

You've made the accusation of a weaponized DOJ, so what's the specific evidence? You can crib this from right-wing sources, but it has to be concrete evidence. It can't be vibes or opinions. Can you do that?

AI assisted since it's late.

Given the accusations and circumstances surrounding the legal actions against Donald Trump, there is a compelling case to argue that what we've seen could indeed be characterized as **lawfare**:

- **Timing and Nature of Legal Actions:** The timing of various investigations and indictments, especially during times of political significance like election seasons, lends credence to the idea that these legal actions might be strategically deployed to impact Trump's political standing. For instance, the timing of the New York hush money case and the Mar-a-Lago document case could be seen as attempts to influence public perception or disrupt his campaign.

- **Selective Prosecution:** Critics argue there's a disparity in how legal standards are applied. The aggressive pursuit of Trump on various fronts, including charges that have never before been leveled against a former president or current candidate, suggests a targeting that transcends normal legal scrutiny. This is particularly highlighted by comparisons to other politicians who have not faced similar legal consequences for arguably comparable or even greater breaches of law or protocol.

- **The Mueller Investigation:** This investigation, which became a focal point of Trump's presidency, was seen by many as an attempt to delegitimize his administration from the start. Despite finding no direct collusion, the investigation's length, the resources allocated, and the media coverage it garnered were unprecedented, leading to accusations of it being a political witch hunt designed to distract and weaken Trump's administration.

- **The Role of Special Counsels:** Appointing special counsels like Robert Mueller and later Jack Smith can be seen as a means to lend an aura of impartiality to investigations that might otherwise be perceived as politically motivated. However, this could also be interpreted as a calculated move by the DOJ to pursue Trump with the full force of legal authority, especially when these counsels have broad powers to investigate and prosecute.

- **Public Perception and Political Impact:** The constant legal battles have undoubtedly shaped public perception of Trump, often overshadowing his political achievements or agenda. This could be seen as a form of lawfare where the legal system is used not just to enforce the law but to strategically damage a political opponent's image and capability to govern or campaign.

- **Statements from Political Figures:** High-profile Democrats and former officials have at times suggested or outright stated that holding Trump accountable through legal means was necessary to protect democracy or prevent him from holding office again. This rhetoric can be interpreted as an admission that the legal actions were not just about justice but also about political strategy.

- **Judicial and Legal Analyses:** Some legal experts and commentators have pointed out the novel legal theories and interpretations used against Trump, like the charges in the hush money case being elevated from misdemeanors to felonies under unusual circumstances. This could suggest a stretching of legal norms to fit a political narrative.

In sum, while the legal system must hold all individuals accountable, the pattern, intensity, and nature of the legal actions against Trump, alongside the political context in which they occur, provide a strong basis for arguing that these actions represent a form of lawfare, where the legal system is leveraged to achieve political ends.


bats

That's funny. But it wasn't AI-assisted. It was you assisting AI with your prompt.

I won't paste in what I got from my prompt to give me counterpoints to all the listed "evidence" because it would take up a lot of space and be a silly way to "discuss" the issue. We could go back and forth all day with our respective AI responses! LOL

If you want to have a genuine discussion, don't let the lateness of the hour deter you. There's plenty of time in the coming days, I'm sure.

bligslick

#26
I've made my position clear. If you want CNN sources. You'll have to wait 6 months.

Source that I'd attribute, you'd claim are biased.  I'm not interested in appeasing you. I've made my claims. Let's let some time pass and see what comes out in the wash. If I'm wrong, it'll be easy for you to point out.

Well, you will either way. But let's see what happens... meanwhile, Biden, your representative of "honest" government, will either be deemed worthy or shitty. History, not too far in the future, will reveal who is right. Tic tok tik tok. Let's go.

bats

Quote from: bligslick on Jan 09, 2025, 02:38 AMI've made my position clear. If you want CNN sources. You'll have to wait 6 months.

Source that I'd attribute, you'd claim are biased.  I'm not interested in appeasing you. I've made my claims. Let's let some time pass and see what comes out in the wash. If I'm wrong, it'll be easy for you to point out. 
You've stated positions, but you haven't supported them with facts. And I don't care what your sources are as long as you provide facts. Your AI output was just a bunch of shit that you told it to fetch. So was mine. 

Now you want to go with "let's let history decide?" What the fuck will history reveal about the claims you've made about past events?

bligslick

Finger pointing, four back at yourself.

I'm 100% good with my positions. I don't believe anyone doesn't make mistakes.

I don't claim President elect Trump is perfect.  But I do agree with more of his positions than I do of your dude(s).

That's most of the reason I don't just fall over and let you lead the way. You be you, but don't expect me to not be me.

History hasn't been written yet about many of the contentious issues. Well, they've been written by your side but the final chapters are yet to come.  I love that you care so much that you have to battle everything.  Good on you.

Credibility of sources is everything.  Which is why I won't respond to questions that require a paper to support. Your questions are often broad and are put in such a way that it needs a long wind3d response. Nope.


I gave always saidm this forum is the dumbest thing ever in this site. It was dumb on GLH too, it should be opt in, rather that's opt out. Why would girls engage in a forum that this is the predominant postings? If you sort by unread, it's in your face. If you're into it enough to know how to opt out of this forum, great! But which casual girl would care enough to do that? They won't.

Danno

FUCK YOU and your high horse you rode in. Keep my name out of it.

Quote from: bligslick on Jan 09, 2025, 01:09 AMwhere did I accuse you and the big 4: Danno, Bats, BlkFyre and yourself of TDS?

I am SO tired of the condescension that, yes I will call it out.

Fauci did support gain of function testing in Wuhan. Are you disputing that?

The six foot separation "advice", was pulled out of a hat.  Take the vaccine and stop the spread! It's one thing if it were, we're trying to do the right thing... it's another thing to make statements claiming ""Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science."

Fox News has always been another controlled media source.  If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to take the lashes. 

I've watched that specific 9 minute video. I sat through it again because I like you HS, and I want to be open to new information.  This wasn't new. I don't base my positions on one video, or a few biased sources. I draw conclusions from 60 years of being me.  Since 2015, I've watched endless amounts of views from both sides,  it's what's made me realize the modern Democrat party no longer reflects my values.

What's the answer to the question? Will Biden pardon Fauci? Either way, I look SO forward to the next 3 years. I'd love for us all to get along.  Recall when Biden said he was going to,be the great uniter?

Still waiting... and counting down the days until the pendulum swings in a way that I can be giving my friends high fives.  Surprisingly, there is a larger group of educated friends and relatives that I have that are in alignment with my way of thinking than the outspoken left.

May you and yours find peace in the days weeks and months ahead.

Finally, I used to think of myself as an independent that leaned heavily towards Democrat values. I see the Democrat party going so left, that they're unreasonable.  I have become a republican not because they reached out to me, it's because the left has left me behind...


Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome