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Maybe it's easier than I thought.  Reverse everything he says to get the truth.

Stock market taking hard hits don't know if Trump's tariffs are good idea.  I think he should concentrate on ending the wars.  Ending the wars will help our economy.

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These did not age well, but are true, and go directly to "There is always a tweet"...

Quote from: bats on Mar 10, 2025, 06:24 PMTrump is a perpetual victim. If he fails (as he often does) it must be someone else's fault. Always.

And he projects this victimization onto our country. He always has. Here's an interview from 1980 where he said we were being taken advantage of by other countries:

I disagree about Trumps assertion that a lack of respect for the U.S. led to the Iraq Iran war.  Sunnis and the Shiʿah have been at odds since the death of the Prophet Muhammad over 1,000 years ago. When Ruhollah Khomeini became the leader of Iran, replacing the secular monarchy of the Shah, creating a theocracy. Saddam Hussein had long disputed boundaries territorial claims previously conceded to Iran, going back to the time of withdrawal by the British.

Trump's assertion that if  America  was respected the hostages would not have been taken seems rooted in the concept, A Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of being harmed.  So great was the retribution of Rome, universally understood as certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens.

Trump tariffs is reeking havoc on the stockmarket.  Stockmarket is a disaster right now. Not good!

everything you buy in an aluminum can just went up

The stockmarket is dropping like a ball bouncing down a flight of stairs.  I do agree that fixing the trade deficit is important to our economy and long overdue I just think some of the measures Trump is taking is or will hurt our economy in the short term.  We should know by end of this summer if Trump is doing right for economy.

I don't see how any of this can work to the average American's benefit.
We have a trade deficit for a reason.
We are the richest nation so we can afford it.
We are a consumption society.  We buy wayyyyy too much crap we don't need.
When those are not the case we may have a trade surplus.
Yes we are being "ripped off" as trump says-----by ourselves.

Our exports are $3T and our imports are $4T.
Not a huge difference in terms of fold or % amounts but it's a $1T deficit every year.
If we export $1T more or import $1T less or some mixture of those
then we would have no trade deficit.
I think that's best done by producing more and/or importing less.
Tariffs may result in fewer imports BUT we (the importers) may pay for that.
That could fix the trade deficit but hurt the average person.
We can't produce any more from current factories.  As a whole they are near maximum capacity.
Reshoring companies would increase capacity.  Shouldn't result in lower prices though.
Overall tariffs seem like a lose-lose situation to me.
Countries exporting to us lose because the price of their products is higher (so demand drops) or they have to cut into profits (if they have any) to pay the tariff.
We lose at least short term because prices of our imports are higher.
Now every country we put tariffs on also puts reciprocal (and escalating) tariffs on us. 
I don't see how that is useful.

Look at your purchases. How much do you have from Canada?
LMAO. I bet nothing. Therefore will affect us hardly.

Trump said over and over we would be effected a little bit prior to seeing affects..
Hell you all ready see some manufacturing jobs coming Back to the States,


Many of you have TDS out here.

Trump will be noted as one of Our BEST Presidents.

Despicable how many stand up for Democrats while Democrats can not stand for a kid with Cancer and many other things.

Not to mention not condemning Trans in sports. Male against male, Female against Females, And if Trans want to start their own league with trans against trans go for it.... Doubt it would get much support.

More interesting numbers.
About half our trade deficit is a result of vehicle imports.
So instead of taxing "avocados" and "cheap $5 plastic junk from China"
 a bigger impact could be made if tariffs were specifically on vehicles.
Notably, none have been imposed on Japan or South Korea.
We purchase 15M vehicles but produce 10M in the US.  5M are imported.
Increase domestic vehicle production by 50% and much of the trade deficit is gone IF people buy those domestically made cars (which could be made by foreign companies).

Quote from: Bande on Yesterday at 03:23 PMLook at your purchases. How much do you have from Canada?
LMAO. I bet nothing. Therefore will affect us hardly.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada

"U.S. total goods trade with Canada were an estimated $762.1 billion in 2024.  U.S. goods exports to Canada in 2024 were $349.4 billion"

We buy TWICE as many goods from Canada than Canada does from the US. We import more than we export. But yeah, HARDLY affect us...

Quote from: Blkfyre on Yesterday at 05:15 PMhttps://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada
"U.S. total goods trade with Canada were an estimated $762.1 billion in 2024.  U.S. goods exports to Canada in 2024 were $349.4 billion"
We buy TWICE as many goods from Canada than Canada does from the US.

U.S. total goods trade with Canada were an estimated $762.1 billion in 2024.
U.S. goods exports to Canada in 2024 were $349.4 billion.
U.S. goods imports from Canada in 2024 totaled $412.7 billion.
349.4 + 412.7 = 762.1

Quote from: Blkfyre on Yesterday at 05:15 PMWe buy TWICE as many goods from Canada than Canada does from the US. But yeah, HARDLY affect us...

Exactly!  Another example that illustrates my point above.  We are rich.  We love stupid shit and to show off how rich we are.  The result is a trade deficit.....LMAO.

Quote from: Bande on Yesterday at 03:23 PMLook at your purchases. How much do you have from Canada?

Lumber (30% is from Canada---they have so many fucking trees there!)
 and maple syrup. I guess I'll be ok with just butter on my pancakes.

Quote from: Bande on Yesterday at 03:23 PMHell you all ready see some manufacturing jobs coming Back to the States,

Karoline Leavitt, White House Press Secretary