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We may never know the full scope of the insanity of Trump's presidency, but we're starting to get more clues. Former defense secretary Mark Esper has a book coming out that will describe some of it, including advisor Stephen Miller's suggestion that the U.S. military send 250,000 troops to the southern border. A New York Times article today talks about some of the other crazy shit that Trumpers probably would have loved.

Former President Donald J. Trump asked Mark T. Esper, his defense secretary, about the possibility of launching missiles into Mexico to "destroy the drug labs" and wipe out the cartels, maintaining that the United States' involvement in a strike against its southern neighbor could be kept secret, Mr. Esper recounts in his upcoming memoir.

Those remarkable discussions in 2020 were among several moments that Mr. Esper described in the book, "A Sacred Oath," as leaving him all but speechless when he served the 45th president.

Mr. Esper, the last Senate-confirmed defense secretary under Mr. Trump, also had concerns about speculation that the president might misuse the military around Election Day by, for instance, having soldiers seize ballot boxes. He warned subordinates to be on alert for unusual calls from the White House in the lead-up to the election.

The book, to be published on Tuesday, offers a stunningly candid perspective from a former defense secretary, and it illuminates key episodes from the Trump presidency, including some that were unknown or underexplored.

"I felt like I was writing for history and for the American people," said Mr. Esper, who underwent the standard Pentagon security clearance process to check for classified information. He also sent his writing to more than two dozen four-star generals, some cabinet members and others to weigh in on accuracy and fairness.

Pressed on his view of Mr. Trump, Mr. Esper — who strained throughout the book to be fair to the man who fired him while also calling out his increasingly erratic behavior after his first impeachment trial ended in February 2020 — said carefully but bluntly, "He is an unprincipled person who, given his self-interest, should not be in the position of public service."

A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Esper describes an administration completely overtaken by concerns about Mr. Trump's re-election campaign, with every decision tethered to that objective. He writes that he could have resigned, and weighed the idea several times, but that he believed the president was surrounded by so many yes-men and people whispering dangerous ideas to him that a loyalist would have been put in Mr. Esper's place. The real act of service, he decided, was staying in his post to ensure that such things did not come to pass.

One such idea coming from Mr. Trump, who was unhappy about the constant flow of drugs across the southern border, came during the summer of 2020. Mr. Trump asked Mr. Esper at least twice if the military could "shoot missiles into Mexico to destroy the drug labs."

"They don't have control of their own country," Mr. Esper recounts Mr. Trump saying.

When Mr. Esper raised various objections, Mr. Trump said that "we could just shoot some Patriot missiles and take out the labs, quietly," adding that "no one would know it was us." Mr. Trump said he would just say that the United States had not conducted the strike, Mr. Esper recounts, writing that he would have thought it was a joke had he not been staring Mr. Trump in the face.

In Mr. Esper's telling, Mr. Trump seemed more emboldened, and more erratic, after he was acquitted in his first impeachment trial. Mr. Esper writes that personnel choices reflected that reality, as Mr. Trump tried to tighten his grip on the executive branch with demands of personal loyalty.

Among Mr. Trump's desires was to put 10,000 active-duty troops on the streets of Washington on June 1, 2020, after large protests against police brutality erupted following the police killing of George Floyd. Mr. Trump asked Mr. Esper about the demonstrators, "Can't you just shoot them?"

Mr. Esper describes one episode nearly a month earlier during which Mr. Trump, whose re-election prospects were reshaped by his repeated bungling of the response to the coronavirus pandemic, behaved so erratically at a May 9 meeting about China with the Joint Chiefs of Staff that one officer grew alarmed. The unidentified officer confided to Mr. Esper months later that the meeting led him to research the 25th Amendment, under which the vice president and members of the cabinet can remove a president from office, to see what was required and under what circumstances it might be used.

Mr. Esper writes that he never believed Mr. Trump's conduct rose to the level of needing to invoke the 25th Amendment. He also strains to give Mr. Trump credit where he thinks he deserves it. Nonetheless, Mr. Esper paints a portrait of someone not in control of his emotions or his thought process throughout 2020.

Mr. Esper singles out officials whom he considered erratic or dangerous influences on Mr. Trump, with the policy adviser Stephen Miller near the top of the list. He recounts that Mr. Miller proposed sending 250,000 troops to the southern border, claiming that a large caravan of migrants was en route. "The U.S. armed forces don't have 250,000 troops to send to the border for such nonsense," Mr. Esper writes that he responded.

In October 2019, after members of the national security team assembled in the Situation Room to watch a feed of the raid that killed the Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Mr. Miller proposed securing Mr. al-Baghdadi's head, dipping it in pig's blood and parading it around to warn other terrorists, Mr. Esper writes. That would be a "war crime," Mr. Esper shot back.

Mr. Esper also viewed Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump's final White House chief of staff, as a huge problem for the administration and the national security team in particular. Mr. Meadows often threw the president's name around when barking orders, but Mr. Esper makes clear that he often was not certain whether Mr. Meadows was communicating what Mr. Trump wanted or what Mr. Meadows wanted.

He also writes about repeated clashes with Robert C. O'Brien, Mr. Trump's national security adviser in the final year, describing Mr. O'Brien as advocating a bellicose approach to Iran without considering the potential fallout.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/politics/mark-esper-book-trump.html

Sounds like a terrific plan to get rid of cartels... I support it, Biden would never do it.

Quote from: Hobby on May 05, 2022, 05:43 PMSounds like a terrific plan to get rid of cartels... I support it, Biden would never do it.

Which part sounds terrific? Is it the part where Trump wanted to use an anti-aircraft missile to hit targets on the ground? Or is it the part where he wanted to flatly deny that he was the one who ordered it?

Quote from: bats on May 05, 2022, 06:01 PMWhich part sounds terrific? Is it the part where Trump wanted to use an anti-aircraft missile to hit targets on the ground? Or is it the part where he wanted to flatly deny that he was the one who ordered it?

Both! But then again, I would take credit for destroying the evil people who are killing Americans and profiting from it, but that is just me!

Since we are spreading false rumors and not facts here, I heard that Trump wanted to use nuclear bombs to get rid of the drug cartels but Hunter had daddy veto that since it would have contaminated his drug supply. I love the sheep who believe anything they hear as long as it fits their agenda! Carry on........LOL!

Quote from: NiceMikey on May 05, 2022, 08:45 PMSince we are spreading false rumors and not facts here, I heard that Trump wanted to use nuclear bombs to get rid of the drug cartels but Hunter had daddy veto that since it would have contaminated his drug supply. I love the sheep who believe anything they hear as long as it fits their agenda! Carry on........LOL!

Mikey, this is coming from Trump's former defense secretary in his upcoming book. You think he's making things up?

Quote from: NiceMikey on May 05, 2022, 08:45 PMSince we are spreading false rumors and not facts here, I heard that Trump wanted to use nuclear bombs to get rid of the drug cartels but Hunter had daddy veto that since it would have contaminated his drug supply. I love the sheep who believe anything they hear as long as it fits their agenda! Carry on........LOL!

Everyone knows anything the left can dig up even hearsay on Trump is True! Anything reported about Hunter is Russian sabotage or interference. Trump says things all the time that is bizarre and thinks outside the box. Dems will never admit the Truth that Trump was a far stronger and smarter leader than Biden! The economy up until Covid was doing great under Trump. Under Biden, it's a train wreck, everything Biden has touched turned to shit! Can't wait how Democrats are going to feel when their retirements, savings, and investments get wiped out, they will say it is Trump's fault!

Quote from: bats on May 05, 2022, 08:52 PMMikey, this is coming from Trump's former defense secretary in his upcoming book. You think he's making things up?

I think he is selling a book! Now there is a clue for you Sherlock!

I was asking Mikey.

Well I don;'t have time to read all that but my first thought based on the subject title is they could just say the meth lab exploded.  After all it happens all the time due to how flammable they are.

Quote from: dogwalker on May 06, 2022, 12:09 PMWell I don;'t have time to read all that but my first thought based on the subject title is they could just say the meth lab exploded.  After all it happens all the time due to how flammable they are.

Ditto the first party - I was thinking that is one way celebrate Cinco de Mayo!! but I thought Trump was happy with his Taco salad?