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Quote from: bats on Jun 11, 2022, 09:51 PMWait. Aren't the cops supposed to have probable cause to believe that you committed a crime before they haul you off? lol

Nope,you can be hauled in for suspicion or questioning without being charged... so basically if a cop wants to be an asshole can take you to jail hold you there for a while, and then has to charge you or let you go.

Quote from: Hobby on Jun 16, 2022, 01:36 PMNope,you can be hauled in for suspicion or questioning without being charged... so basically if a cop wants to be an asshole can take you to jail hold you there for a while, and then has to charge you or let you go.

Oh, they can do it, but not legally. If they do it illegally they risk a nice lawsuit.

Quote from: Hobby on Jun 16, 2022, 01:36 PMNope,you can be hauled in for suspicion or questioning without being charged... so basically if a cop wants to be an asshole can take you to jail hold you there for a while, and then has to charge you or let you go.

Incorrect. They need probably cause to hold you even if it's not charging you with a crime. Even a stupid public defender could get you kicked if they don't have a reasonable cause to hold you.

Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 16, 2022, 08:20 PMIncorrect. They need probably cause to hold you even if it's not charging you with a crime. Even a stupid public defender could get you kicked if they don't have a reasonable cause to hold you.

El Wrong O... Police come up with a host of reasons to haul your ass in and not charge you.  They can haul you in for a 5150 crazy, this is a judgment call by the officer and put you in a cell for observation up to 72 hours, nothing you can do about it.

Quote from: Hobby on Jun 16, 2022, 08:59 PMEl Wrong O... Police come up with a host of reasons to haul your ass in and not charge you.  They can haul you in for a 5150 crazy, this is a judgment call by the officer and put you in a cell for observation up to 72 hours, nothing you can do about it.

5150 is probable cause

Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 16, 2022, 09:35 PM5150 is probable cause

You find anything to argue about having to be right makes you feel superior... I bet you are a blast at parties...

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