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Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 04, 2022, 02:46 PMI didn't say I was voting for Newsom. Last I check he's the one who's yet to relinquish his draconian authoritive power.  I understand Democrats don't consider it authoritarianism when they're the ones benefiting from it while the rest suffer.  It's always awesome when you get to benefit from the abuse of power when it doesn't affect you adversely like all Democrats do. Next, Democrats will start talking about how communism and socialism is so awesome that we should move towards it. And then have an struggling artist come and tell us that the true race are those of blonde hair and blue eyes and everyone will believe him because he himself is of dark hair.

One of the problems with the ignorance in this country is that so many people can't see or admit what's been happening with the modern Republican party. Or, worse, they actually support it.

Modern Republicans like DeSantis want to be free to impose their Christofascism on the entire country, and they've made a lot of progress toward that end. They're extremists who want to tell others what to do while insisting that nobody can tell them what to do.

Both sides may be bad, but they are not equally bad. It's amazing that people still don't see that in the era of Trumpism, but I suppose that's how these assholes are getting elected.

At this point it seems Biden is the only one that said
they hope to be El Dictator de Estatos Unitos in 2024.
So, until the other assholes declare, moot point.

Quote from: bats on Jul 04, 2022, 06:32 PMOne of the problems with the ignorance in this country is that so many people can't see or admit what's been happening with the modern Republican party. Or, worse, they actually support it.

Modern Republicans like DeSantis want to be free to impose their Christofascism on the entire country, and they've made a lot of progress toward that end. They're extremists who want to tell others what to do while insisting that nobody can tell them what to do.

Both sides may be bad, but they are not equally bad. It's amazing that people still don't see that in the era of Trumpism, but I suppose that's how these assholes are getting elected.

The real problem is that you can replace Republican with Democrat and it would still hold true and that pay would still think that they are the better party.  That is the reason why we still keep getting assholes in office. First Trump and now Biden, all for the lesser of two evils

Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 04, 2022, 07:00 PMThe real problem is that you can replace Republican with Democrat and it would still hold true and that pay would still think that they are the better party.  That is the reason why we still keep getting assholes in office. First Trump and now Biden, all for the lesser of two evils

I guess it's up to you if you want to believe the three Supreme Court picks by the last Republican president would've had the same effect under a Democratic president. As ONE glaring example.

Notice how you always try to claim that both Democrats and Republicans are bad but always how Democrats are better and then you go around trying to talk about how awesome Democrats are and how if only they were in charge no bad would ever befall the country.  Reminds me of those who say as long as one of us wins we all win... but it has to be me who wins.

Your Glaring example is glaring in the fact that Democrats own both the White House and Congress yet do nothing but blame Republicans.  What have they done to fix the problem?  Blaming Republicans doesn't fix anything.  the most glaring thing is how their party members eat the shit they shovel down their throats.

Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 05, 2022, 12:08 AMNotice how you always try to claim that both Democrats and Republicans are bad but always how Democrats are better and then you go around trying to talk about how awesome Democrats are and how if only they were in charge no bad would ever befall the country.  Reminds me of those who say as long as one of us wins we all win... but it has to be me who wins.

Your Glaring example is glaring in the fact that Democrats own both the White House and Congress yet do nothing but blame Republicans.  What have they done to fix the problem?  Blaming Republicans doesn't fix anything.  the most glaring thing is how their party members eat the shit they shovel down their throats.

Pot, kettle except reverse it. You claim to not be on neither side and they are all bad but as quick as you say it, 90% of your comments have always disparaged Democrats.

When the Republicans owned both houses you did nothing but blame Democrats. Blaming Democrats doesn't fix anything to use your words.

Oh, am I now a Democrat or Republican in office that is able to actual make a difference.  I have become an elected official?  You seem to think yourself in those shoes if that's your sentiment.  YOU are not an elected official and if you are then you definitely are doing a shitty job out there.  Are there delusions of us here being able to make changes to this country on this board?  We are here to discuss about what should be done and what we think.  I blame our Democratic officials for these current issues.  You, apparently, are blaming me for not getting things done because I'm blaming Democrats instead of making that change.  If I have become an elected official please tell me for what district and where? 

90% of my comments are about disparaging Democrats?  You have a graph and data to represent that?  My stance is always the same, both Democrats and Republicans are useless pieces of shits who don't give a shit for the people they claim to represent.  I have not shied away from this position.  That also means I try to look at everything from an unbiased standpoint.  I don't just blindly lick the ass of my party. Unfortunately, that means that I don't agree with your sentiments which, in typical Democrat form, means that I always disparage Democrats because I dare to call them pieces of shits and didn't just call Republicans pieces of shits. 

ie. The Democrats are retards who caused us to get a retard of a President in Trump.  All Democrats hear is, "The Democrats are retards who caused".  Therein lies the issue with Democrats.  You are evil for not thinking like us.  Democrats are so fukin bad that they own the White House and Congress and still can't get anything worthwhile done.  It's sad when Trump has been the best President out of the last three.  I'd take Bush jr over them three idiots and jr was the standard for being an idiot.

 

Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 05, 2022, 10:25 AMOh, am I now a Democrat or Republican in office that is able to actual make a difference.  I have become an elected official?  You seem to think yourself in those shoes if that's your sentiment.  YOU are not an elected official and if you are then you definitely are doing a shitty job out there.  Are there delusions of us here being able to make changes to this country on this board?  We are here to discuss about what should be done and what we think.  I blame our Democratic officials for these current issues.  You, apparently, are blaming me for not getting things done because I'm blaming Democrats instead of making that change.  If I have become an elected official please tell me for what district and where? 

90% of my comments are about disparaging Democrats?  You have a graph and data to represent that?  My stance is always the same, both Democrats and Republicans are useless pieces of shits who don't give a shit for the people they claim to represent.  I have not shied away from this position.  That also means I try to look at everything from an unbiased standpoint.  I don't just blindly lick the ass of my party. Unfortunately, that means that I don't agree with your sentiments which, in typical Democrat form, means that I always disparage Democrats because I dare to call them pieces of shits and didn't just call Republicans pieces of shits. 

ie. The Democrats are retards who caused us to get a retard of a President in Trump.  All Democrats hear is, "The Democrats are retards who caused".  Therein lies the issue with Democrats.  You are evil for not thinking like us.  Democrats are so fukin bad that they own the White House and Congress and still can't get anything worthwhile done.  It's sad when Trump has been the best President out of the last three.  I'd take Bush jr over them three idiots and jr was the standard for being an idiot.

 

LOL ok, so in Bats case he "Notice how you always try to claim..." but in my case there are "...delusions of us here being able to make changes..."

Mmmkay

Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 05, 2022, 12:08 AMNotice how you always try to claim that both Democrats and Republicans are bad but always how Democrats are better and then you go around trying to talk about how awesome Democrats are and how if only they were in charge no bad would ever befall the country.  Reminds me of those who say as long as one of us wins we all win... but it has to be me who wins.

Your Glaring example is glaring in the fact that Democrats own both the White House and Congress yet do nothing but blame Republicans.  What have they done to fix the problem?  Blaming Republicans doesn't fix anything.  the most glaring thing is how their party members eat the shit they shovel down their throats.

1. I've never talked about how awesome Democrats are, and I've never suggested that nothing bad would befall the country with them in charge. I don't know where you're getting that.

2. It's fiction to say the Democrats have control of Congress. They can do essentially nothing without 60 votes, and by the way, there are a couple of them who like to stand in the way of even the bare majority they do technically have.

I get that you try to make sense of American politics by taking the view that everyone is just the same as everyone else, but please leave me out of your fantasy.

Quote from: thaikhan on Jul 05, 2022, 12:08 AM...Democrats own both the White House and Congress yet do nothing but blame Republicans.  What have they done to fix the problem?  Blaming Republicans doesn't fix anything.

They may own the house, but they keep getting locked out. When Republicans held the Whitehouse and Congress the same criticism was leveled at them that are now leveled at the Democrats.

One of the problems is the notion that casts all Democrats and all Republican in to just two buckets. There are progressive Democrats, moderate Democrats, and conservative Democrats. In the Republican Party there are progressive Republicans, moderate Republicans, and conservative Republicans. 

The media and political rhetoric likes to keep it to just two warring teams.

Speaking of Newscum, He is visiting Montana for Family.
Newscum has Montana on The do not do business with for the State Of California.
Yet he is in Montana with California's Highway Patrol Officers as his security detail.
Can you say he is above all rules he has put in place? Yes. Hypocrite.
Just his ego..
He is not that big in Montana requiring security detail.

How about all those Florida commercials on our Dime?
Never ending...
 

Quote from: Bande on Jul 06, 2022, 09:01 PMSpeaking of Newscum, He is visiting Montana for Family.
Newscum has Montana on The do not do business with for the State Of California.
Yet he is in Montana with California's Highway Patrol Officers as his security detail.
Can you say he is above all rules he has put in place? Yes. Hypocrite.
Just his ego..
He is not that big in Montana requiring security detail.

How about all those Florida commercials on our Dime?
Never ending...
 

So, to get this straight: You admit he is there visiting family. Not doing business, but a FAMILY visit.

The travel ban applies to using state funds. The Governor's travel is not being paid by the state. Connecting the two is an attempt at gotcha politics that is neither gotcha nor politics.

Newsom's communications director Erin Mellon reiterated to The Post "The Governor's travel not being paid for by the state," Mellon said. "Connecting the two is irresponsible and falsely implies there is something untoward."

"This is a personal trip to visit family who live outside the state," she added.

Newsom is a hypocrite, just like when he had dinner at that restaurant and nobody was wearing a mask.

"Laws are for thee not me"

Quote from: Romanticlover on Jul 07, 2022, 09:32 AMNewsom is a hypocrite, just like when he had dinner at that restaurant and nobody was wearing a mask.

"Laws are for thee not me"

What law is he breaking? What is he being a hypocrite over? Again, the ban (which while he added states to, he actually wasn't the one to create the ban) is only for BUSINESS, not infringing on a citizen's right to travel. Did you think that the no business with other states meant YOU couldn't go to another state? He may be a Governor but he's also a citizen of the United States, able to travel where and when he wants to, right?

He should have a higher standard.   lol