FBI Agents Reportedly Looked For Nuclear Documents In Search Of Trump’s Home

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Over on Fox News earlier tonight "reporter" John Solomon reads a statement from Trump's office. It says, essentially, that Trump was just taking his work home with him like a lot of us.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1558261235883311106

dogwalker


HighStepper

Quote from: bats on Aug 12, 2022, 07:02 PMOver on Fox News earlier tonight "reporter" John Solomon reads a statement from Trump's office. It says, essentially, that Trump was just taking his work home with him like a lot of us.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1558261235883311106

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Too much sex is still not enough.

Bande

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Does not matter. Commander in Chief controls the documents and classifies them. No laws were broken.
And available to Commander in chief in which no time limitations are stated.
PRA 2205 #3.
(3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.
This is a fishing expedition to smear Trump prior to midterms. Results will be nothing. Just wasting more of our $$$$.
Demoncrats are hurting and it shows...

Bande

Quote from: dogwalker on Aug 12, 2022, 07:04 PMHe's an outsider.  He didn't know any better.

He knows alot and knew these documents are under his control.

bats

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 08:42 PMHe knows alot and knew these documents are under his control.

That's not how it works at all. I know that's what his media people are telling you, but they're either stupid or lying to you. Could be both.

bats

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 08:39 PMDoes not matter. Commander in Chief controls the documents and classifies them. No laws were broken.
And available to Commander in chief in which no time limitations are stated.
PRA 2205 #3.
(3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.
It's perilous to cite statutes out of context. The Presidential Records Act was enacted to prevent presidential abuses of power relating to records used or produced by a president or his staff. It came about after Nixon tried to claim ownership of some of the records of his presidency.

Nixon lost his claim at the Supreme Court, and Congress passed the PRA to make sure no president ever again could pull that kind of bullshit. Of course, Nixon, being the semi-principled human that he was, accepted the outcome.

Basically, the PRA makes the president custodian of the records used and produced by his office during his tenure. But upon a president's leaving office, custody of those records automatically transfers to the National Archives. The entire time, the ownership of the records is with the public. The PRA makes clear that the records are owned by the public, not the president, even if the public can't have access to them for whatever reasons.

There's a whole other set of rules respecting classified materials. Trump has apparently violated several of those rules as well. 

Bande

Quote from: bats on Aug 12, 2022, 10:07 PMIt's perilous to cite statutes out of context. The Presidential Records Act was enacted to prevent presidential abuses of power relating to records used or produced by a president or his staff. It came about after Nixon tried to claim ownership of some of the records of his presidency.

Nixon lost his claim at the Supreme Court, and Congress passed the PRA to make sure no president ever again could pull that kind of bullshit. Of course, Nixon, being the semi-principled human that he was, accepted the outcome.

Basically, the PRA makes the president custodian of the records used and produced by his office during his tenure. But upon a president's leaving office, custody of those records automatically transfers to the National Archives. The entire time, the ownership of the records is with the public. The PRA makes clear that the records are owned by the public, not the president, even if the public can't have access to them for whatever reasons.

There's a whole other set of rules respecting classified materials. Trump has apparently violated several of those rules as well.

You may want to read. This is straight from PRA2205
 (3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.


The Commander in Chief classifies and control the documents classifications, no one else.
A fishing expedition that will result with nothing happening.. Waste of our $$$$

Hobby

Trump took the records out of the White House in violation of the Presidential Records Act they belong to the National Archives, not the President to do with what he wants... He was asked early on to return them, he didn't... it's all on Trump...

bats

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 10:30 PMYou may want to read. This is straight from PRA2205
 (3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.


The Commander in Chief classifies and control the documents classifications, no one else.
A fishing expedition that will result with nothing happening.. Waste of our $$$$
That section of the PRA says that a former president's records shall be available to the former president. Presumably, that means the National Archives has to give him copies of records whose access isn't otherwise restricted.

As for classification, although that argument is bullshit, it doesn't even matter. In some instances, the property receipt identified records that included the most sensitive information that the government keeps. That shit is radioactive, and it can't just be carted off to a completely unsecure location like Mar-a-Lago.

It's way past time for Trumpers to face up to the long-known truth that their idol is a fraud, a crook, and a danger to national security.

Blkfyre

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 08:39 PM
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Does not matter. Commander in Chief controls the documents and classifies them. No laws were broken.
And available to Commander in chief in which no time limitations are stated.
PRA 2205 #3.
(3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.
This is a fishing expedition to smear Trump prior to midterms. Results will be nothing. Just wasting more of our $$$$.
Demoncrats are hurting and it shows...

He isn't the President

HighStepper

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 10:30 PMYou may want to read. This is straight from PRA2205
 (3) the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative.
44 U.S. Code Chapter 22 - PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
The Presidential records of a former President SHALL BE AVAILABLE to such former President or the former President's designated representative.

Quote from: Bande on Aug 12, 2022, 10:30 PMThe Commander in Chief classifies and control the documents classifications, no one else.
A fishing expedition that will result with nothing happening.. Waste of our $$$$
You keep repeating the same misstatement of facts. https://fantasysaloon.com/index.php?msg=7944
I suppose some people have a desperate hope that if you tell a like often enough it might become believable. Sorry, not going to happen here.


Too much sex is still not enough.

Hobby

Trump is going down, his ship is sinking, will Trump make another first?  First former president to be incarcerated or shot for treason? Place your bets! LOL I bet shot...

Danno

Wonder why he had the names and salaries of all USA spies?
Saudis paid Jared $2 billion when they left office.
Guess they know all the names now.
John Bolton said Trump never protected or respected the top secret files.
Just tap me on the head if I overstay my welcome

Blkfyre