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racists on the Left who think that because you are a person of color you are incapable of getting an id, making a living etc.

never heard that one before, must be a Fox talking point.

This coming from the same person who wrote 'Dr Oz should go back to Turkey'.
The hypocrisy of the left has no bounds.

Quote from: Danno on Nov 22, 2022, 10:45 AMracists on the Left who think that because you are a person of color you are incapable of getting an id, making a living etc.

never heard that one before, must be a Fox talking point.

I believe the poster may have been describing "playing the race card" in when people assert the reason for disadvantages is the person's race.

I used the generic term racist in saying how "racists" support Trump. Should have clarified white racists.
Top law enforcement officials say the  domestic terror threat comes from white supremacists. Link

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 22, 2022, 11:59 AMThis coming from the same person who wrote 'Dr Oz should go back to Turkey'.
The hypocrisy of the left has no bounds.

Dr. Oz's vote in 2018 Turkish election renews criticism
Dr. Mehmet Oz has largely shied away from discussing his ties to Turkey where he maintains citizenship.Link

Personally I think he can live wherever he wants, like New Jersey, or any of his 12 residential properties around the world, lol.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 22, 2022, 11:59 AMThis coming from the same person who wrote 'Dr Oz should go back to Turkey'.
The hypocrisy of the left has no bounds.

Yeah, it's not like he was hounded for months over his birth certificate or anything.

Hypocrisy is a bitch...

Dr Oz was the one bragging about have citizenship in Turkey and would consider moving there if he lost.....

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 22, 2022, 11:59 AMThis coming from the same person who wrote 'Dr Oz should go back to Turkey'.
The hypocrisy of the left has no bounds.

Here are just a few of the lies in Trump's first "incredible campaign ad"

Claiming a double-standard with regard to the search of Mar-a-Lago, Trump wrongly said former President Barack Obama "took a lot of things with him" when he left office. The National Archives and Records Administration says it always controlled and managed Obama administration records after his tenure.

Trump claimed that "Joe Biden has intentionally surrendered our energy independence," but the U.S. was never 100% self-sufficient or not reliant on energy imports under Trump.
Comparing gasoline prices during his administration to Biden's, Trump cherry-picked the pandemic low during his administration and greatly exaggerated current prices. And in any case, experts say neither president was primarily responsible for the prices.

Trump also falsely claimed to have "filled up" the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which he said Biden has "virtually drained." Neither is true.

The former president wrongly said the southwest border was the "strongest ever" during his term and now is "open." Apprehensions, a proxy for illegal immigration, were higher during Trump's term than either of Obama's terms. While they've increased considerably under President Joe Biden, well over 1 million, at least, have been expelled.
Trump came up short of building the border wall he promised, despite his claim that he "completed" it.
Trump downplayed the risk of climate change, incorrectly stating that sea level rise will be just "one-eighth of an inch over the next 200 to 300 years." For U.S. coastlines, scientists project an increase of 10 to 12 inches in the next 30 years alone.

For a detailed response to each of Trump's falsehoods, go here: https://www.factcheck.org/2022/11/factchecking-trumps-presidential-bid-announcement/

I suppose it could be interpreted that way.  That also assumes that I think he is a racist which I am still trying to find actual evidence of.

Quote from: CigarMan on Nov 23, 2022, 07:06 AMI suppose it could be interpreted that way.  That also assumes that I think he is a racist which I am still trying to find actual evidence of.

There is no evidence, they keep throwing accusations to see what will stick.
They are totally oblivious to Biden's statements when he was a Senator pushing for the crime bill:

Quote from: Bande on Nov 22, 2022, 05:14 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZG4w94zo8&t=118s

Video:  ON A ROLL! Trump Drops 2nd Incredible Campaign Ad That'll Bring a Tear To Your Eye

A studio edited bullshit video makes the MAGA cult excited.
However, in person, BORING.

Trump's announcement speech was so boring that people started leaving early before Trump finished. Staff kept people from leaving. Pathetic.

Trump's Announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPW2geDf4qY

Quote from: Romanticlover on Nov 23, 2022, 07:22 AMThere is no evidence, they keep throwing accusations to see what will stick.
They are totally oblivious to Biden's statements when he was a Senator pushing for the crime bill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-tBq85q6PI&t=2s

This video makes Trump look a lot worse than Biden. BTW, when will you ever hear narcissistic  Trump admit that something he did was a mistake. Biden is advocating treatment over incarceration. Biden issued a presidential proclamation that pardons federal convictions for simple marijuana possession offenses.

Quote from: HighStepper on Nov 23, 2022, 12:00 PMThis video makes Trump look a lot worse than Biden. BTW, when will you ever hear narcissistic  Trump admit that something he did was a mistake. Biden is advocating treatment over incarceration. Biden issued a presidential proclamation that pardons federal convictions for simple marijuana possession offenses.

IMO that video makes Trump look calm and collected, Biden stutters and looks unhinged.
I watched that debate on TV and I yelled at the TV: "You are a f..king liar Biden."
Biden lied about saying that in 1993, he didn't say black men are super predators but everyone knew who he was talking about.

Look how well he spoke back then...

Remember we started down this path to counter Trump being racist by showing Biden to have supported a racist bill. (I do not agree with the premise relative to Trump or Biden)

The video you posted shows a passionate and eloquent plea. Us Republican law and order folks would applaud it.

1994 crime bill earmarked billions in funding for states to build new prisons, train and hire additional police, expanded the federal death penalty and instituted a federal "three-strikes" life sentence mandate, which was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

The crime bill included the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, or the Federal Assault Weapons Ban. The law prohibited the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon.

The bill passed in the House of Representatives with 188 Democrats, 46 Republicans, and 1 Independent voting in favor of it. Against the bill were 64 Democrats and 131 Republicans. (can you say bipartisan)

In the Senate, the bill passed with the support of 54 Democrats and 7 Republicans. The opposition to the vote included 2 Democrats and 36 Republicans, with 1 Republican not voting. (can you say bipartisan)

The 1994 crime bill had wide support in the black community tired of black on black crime. Numerous black mayors and dozens of pastors from the community signed a letter in favor of it.

My issue is Biden lied about what he said back then, he(and other Democrats) said the crime bill was a mistake in 2020 during the debates. "Stop and frisk" was successful in reducing crime in NYC that Mike Bloomberg used when he was mayor, he later apologized during the Democrat debates of 2020. They were clearly pandering for votes.

When Trump was President he pardoned many inmates who were convicted in the 90's due to the crime bill.