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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jan-6-awards-gala_n_66c77f6be4b0b9c7b3609dab

 Donald Trump is hosting a fundraiser for domestic terrorists convicted of assaulting police officers, and some defendants still facing those charges, as part of his Jan. 6, 2021, coup attempt to remain in power.

The event is to take place on Sept. 5 at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and is being staged by The America Project, a pro-Trump nonprofit based in Florida that is calling the reception and dinner "the J6 Awards Gala."

A video promoting the event features clips of Trump praising those who are being prosecuted for taking part in the Capitol assault. "They ought to release the J6 hostages. They've suffered enough," Trump says in the video from one of his campaign speeches. "I call them hostages. Some people call them prisoners. I call them hostages."

The law and order party, guess who gets the money?

The rioters on J6 were not convicted of terrorism.  Although I do believe they should be jailed for 6 months and pay a fine for what they did.  Many realise now Trump is full of shit and they got caught up in it.  Hard to punish them when the person who brain washed them and responsible is not behind bars!

They caused millions of damage. 5 cops died. Many more injured.
They should all be hung for attacking the Capital

Quote from: Hobby on Aug 22, 2024, 05:10 PMThe rioters on J6 were not convicted of terrorism.  Although I do believe they should be jailed for 6 months and pay a fine for what they did.  Many realise now Trump is full of shit and they got caught up in it.  Hard to punish them when the person who brain washed them and responsible is not behind bars!

They may not have been convicted of it, but they certainly were by the government's definition:

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism#:~:text=Domestic%20terrorism%3A%20Violent%2C%20criminal%20acts,%2C%20racial%2C%20or%20environmental%20nature.

Terrorism Definitions
International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Pretty much describes the J6thers doesn't it?

So 20 years in federal prison for tresspassing on government property seems fair?
It doesn't to me.

In other news: leftist protestors vandalized government property and haven't been charged with any crimes

Quote from: Blkfyre on Aug 22, 2024, 07:37 PMThey may not have been convicted of it, but they certainly were by the government's definition:

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism#:~:text=Domestic%20terrorism%3A%20Violent%2C%20criminal%20acts,%2C%20racial%2C%20or%20environmental%20nature.

Terrorism Definitions
International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Pretty much describes the J6thers doesn't it?

You are entitled to your opinions but don't state them as fact.  The rioters where not charged with terrorism. They may fit a definition but definitions don't convict people. I don't know if their actions rose to that of terrorism.  I think if their actions where that of terrorist they would have been charged accordingly.

Quote from: Danno on Aug 22, 2024, 07:17 PMThey caused millions of damage. 5 cops died. Many more injured.
They should all be hung for attacking the Capital

Only one cop died due to injuries, the other four committed suicide.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

So the protestors should hang but convicted murderers on death row shouldn't, hypocrite much?

Quote from: Hobby on Aug 22, 2024, 07:50 PMYou are entitled to your opinions but don't state them as fact.  The rioters where not charged with terrorism. They may fit a definition but definitions don't convict people. I don't know if their actions rose to that of terrorism.  I think if their actions where that of terrorist they would have been charged accordingly.

Checking there were people who were convicted of terrorism:

On May 25, 2023, Stewart Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in prison. He was charged with seditious conspiracy, receiving an increased sentence due to his actions being ruled as terrorism by U.S. District Judge, Amit Mehta. Rhodes was the founder of the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist militia, and was the first to be convicted of seditious conspiracy and terrorism in relation to the attack.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/jan-6-capitol-rioter-faces-15-year-sentence-after-domestic-terrorism-conviction-145222213668

A member of a Texas extremist group who tried to enter the Capitol with a gun during the January 6 riot is expected to be sentenced today after being convicted on five felony counts. NBC News' Ken Dilanian breaks down why prosecutors are arguing for an especially long sentence and whether the Justice Department considers the crimes domestic terrorism.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Aug 22, 2024, 08:45 PMOnly one cop died due to injuries, the other four committed suicide.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

So the protestors should hang but convicted murderers on death row shouldn't, hypocrite much?

Hung is a figure of speech meaning given max penalty

Quote from: Danno on Aug 22, 2024, 10:50 PMHung is a figure of speech meaning given max penalty

Sententencing people to prison can not only punish the person but can have adverse affect on the family especially when the person is the bread winner the family could lose everything.  For first timers no previous arrest the judge should go light so that impact on family is affordable. A 10,000 $ fine with a minimum loss of freedom locked up on weekends
will usually straighten the person out not break the law again. I blame Trump for what happened on j6.

Trump has said if he wins in November he will pardon the J6 rioters... he won't.

Quote from: Romanticlover on Aug 22, 2024, 07:38 PMSo 20 years in federal prison for trespassing on government property seems fair?
It doesn't to me.

I agree with you, that is too harsh for trespassing. The prison terms should only be for the people that caused Republican legislators to run for their lives.

I don't know that they trespassed.  Trump invited them then sent them to the Capitol to protest and told them to stop the steal.

knocking down barricades, stomping on cops is more than trespassing. every single one that entered the Capital was trespassing

Quote from: Danno on Aug 23, 2024, 02:02 PMknocking down barricades, stomping on cops is more than trespassing. every single one that entered the Capital was trespassing

I suppose they were trespassing
 But it looked like breaking and entering to me.  Usually when a person is killed during a crime all involved get charged with murder.