Healthcare for illegal immigrants

Started by thaikhan, Jun 27, 2022, 02:54 PM

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Tuscano

No surprise I favor immigrants, no matter what flavor.
Vorresti essere me

bladegunner

Quote from: Romanticlover on Jun 27, 2022, 04:09 PMThere's a difference between Medi-Cal and Covered California, Medi-Cal is free and Covered California offers insurance plans. They will be offering free Medi-Cal to undocumented residents.

Another reason I hate this state.
I still try to love her. Becoming increasingly challenging. It's not her fault.

bladegunner

Quote from: Bande on Jun 27, 2022, 06:35 PMAlways need to twist shit up you do.
What you mention is for security of our nation.
Nothing to do with health care..
Hear tell the IRS purchased ammunation. Not coraberated though yo. What would they need bullets for?

dogwalker


thaikhan

Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 27, 2022, 05:06 PMAnd bombs, and planes, and IEDs, and bullets. Amazingly not everything you want your taxes to go to are what they go to, just ask the people who don't want the things I just listed to be bought using their tax money.

But there ya go...

And just like usual, you spin and put words in people's mouth and then cry foul when others do the same to you.  I just want free healthcare like undocumented immigrants.  nowhere did I say they do not deserve it; just that I want my piece of the pie too.  Same with bombs, planes, IEDs, and bullets.  Just because they scare you doesn't mean they scare me.  If you had some maybe you wouldn't be as scared. 

Blkfyre

Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 27, 2022, 08:51 PMAnd just like usual, you spin and put words in people's mouth and then cry foul when others do the same to you.  I just want free healthcare like undocumented immigrants.  nowhere did I say they do not deserve it; just that I want my piece of the pie too.  Same with bombs, planes, IEDs, and bullets.  Just because they scare you doesn't mean they scare me.  If you had some maybe you wouldn't be as scared. 

And I said you already have it. Which you ignored

HighStepper

The Medi-Cal expansion is expected to cost $2.6 billion annually.
  • Keep them working
  • Keep them out of the emergency rooms, which is way more expensive.
Too much sex is still not enough.

thaikhan

Quote from: Blkfyre on Jun 27, 2022, 09:09 PMAnd I said you already have it. Which you ignored

I ignore ignorant statements.  Free healthcare and affordable healthcare are two different things, something mentioned a few times above and ignored by you and both are neither of which I am illegible for.  If we are going to give out free healthcare, why not give it out to everyone?  Or are you against free healthcare for all?

bats

This kind of topic should come with a trigger warning for any Republicans who might be listening.

thaikhan

Quote from: HighStepper on Jun 27, 2022, 09:17 PMThe Medi-Cal expansion is expected to cost $2.6 billion annually.
  • Keep them working
  • Keep them out of the emergency rooms, which is way more expensive.



I agree but I would prefer it be expanded to include all.  There are many people who make too much to be able to get good healthcare.  Anyone single making $40k (a little under $20/hr) a year is eligible for a $110 a month plan that covers 60% of most costs with a $35.  It might sound great until you realize it barely covers anything.  Doctor's visits are $65 a visit.  There is a $500 deductible for prescriptions for single patients; $1000 for families.  Once the deductible is paid off for the year then the plan kicks in the pay the rest.  Seeing a specialist costs $95 a visit.  Any other basically covers only 60% with the rest being on you to pay.  No out of network coverage.  Most anyone making under $20k is eligible for medicare.  That gives better coverage and all free.  No out of pocket costs.


thaikhan

#25
Quote from: bats on Jun 27, 2022, 10:23 PMThis kind of topic should come with a trigger warning for any Republicans who might be listening.

Is that why you are triggered?  Because you're against free healthcare for all?

My apologies.  Here is your trigger warning. 

Dear bats and his fellow Republicans against free healthcare for all.  This post thread is about why the state of California does not expand free healthcare to include free healthcare for all and only allows free healthcare to illegal aliens like Michael Jackson and Elvis.

bladegunner

were "trigger" and "pronouns" manufactured by leftists,yo?

Blkfyre

#27
Quote from: thaikhan on Jun 27, 2022, 10:20 PMI ignore ignorant statements.  Free healthcare and affordable healthcare are two different things, something mentioned a few times above and ignored by you and both are neither of which I am illegible for.  If we are going to give out free healthcare, why not give it out to everyone?  Or are you against free healthcare for all?

You are still deliberately getting it wrong/willfully misstating things. They are getting access to Covered California, which yes, is subsidized, but then again, this is available to any Californian https://www.coveredca.com/california-subsidy/, not just undocumented immigrants.

Now, if you want to be making whatever it is you make and THEN still get low-cost health care, that's a different conversation and has nothing directly to do with immigrants like you tried to link this to. ANY Californian who is low-income has exactly the same access to low-cost health care. Trying to link this to JUST immigrants is disingenuous. And before you try to pretzel this, the title of the thread and comments like "just want free healthcare like undocumented immigrants"

Having to pay on a sliding scale depending on what you make is nothing new, nothing unique to either Newsom, California or its health care system.

Bande

Crazy shit.
Tax payers paying for ILLEGAL Healthcare.
Take care of our own.
A majority of population in California agree we should not pay for Illegal Immigrants healthcare.

Hobby

Quote from: Bande on Jun 28, 2022, 08:01 PMCrazy shit.
Tax payers paying for ILLEGAL Healthcare.
Take care of our own.
A majority of population in California agree we should not pay for Illegal Immigrants healthcare.
I think a majority of California wastes money on the high-speed train to state bankruptcy. Just think what that money for the high-speed rail could have done for schools, communities, the homeless... and the price tag for the train keeps getting bigger and bigger.
Hobby